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Has anyone successfully resisted hypertension meds?

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susiecb Tue 20-Sept-11 10:14:18

This thread worries me! Having spent many years nurinsg people who have had a stroke some of whom had not had their B/P monitored and treated and seeing the devastating effects I plead with you to follow your GPs advice on this one. I have taken my hypertension medication for over 30 years now (I had to start on them at aged 28 hypertension is a by product of Lupus) and once settled on the right one for me feel no ill effects. If a GP is difficult you can always change although many practices have a Nurse Practitioner in a hypertension clinic now which can be a much better experience.

JessM Tue 20-Sept-11 08:23:04

Faye sorry to hear that your GS is at risk of this. And sorry that your GP doesn't listen. I am no big defender of doctors and often find their communication skills are desperate. Yes people can do things about their BP - cut down salt, take exercise and lose weight (if they are overweight). But if you have already done what you can it is a better idea to take the meds than get not.

Faye Tue 20-Sept-11 03:37:09

Interestingly just after I wrote my previous post I received an email from my son and it is a transcript of an interview with the miraculous surgeon Yves d'Udekem, who performed the two heart operations on my grandson. This is some of what he said about the patients and hypertension.
'We still today have no idea of the late consequences of this operation. We know that some of these patients will develop hypertension, high blood pressure at a young age. Which will mean that some of these patients will die at a much earlier age, in their 30s or 40s, compared to the rest of the population, because they have had this operation.'
I was concerned for my daughter because of the length of the headaches she was getting and the amount of salt she was eating. I knew hypertension is dangerous. I never dreamed that my grandson has a chance of suffering from it at a young age.

Faye Tue 20-Sept-11 02:16:34

alchemillamollis why do you have high blood pressure?

I went to see my doctor and I will add that it was one of the very few visits in my life. I was there to get the results of an xray because I had fallen down and damaged my knee while I was out having a very good time. When I had just sat down in the doctor's surgery and before I had spoken a word, he said he really was in hurry and then quickly proceeded to tell me the results of the xray. Before he could take a breath he then went on to say that he wanted to prescribe me medication for hormone replacement. He hadn't asked me if I was indeed having any problems, he never checked my blood pressure. I was livid, what is it with these doctors...was he getting a commission to get as many women as he could onto these tablets. Needless to say I did without his tablets and I successfully used alternative methods.

At a different visit his colleague prescribed antibiotics for my daughter that were not suitable for people with allergies, while she was suffering from a painful throat infection. I had mentioned at that visit that she had severe allergies. She became sick and I had to take her to the hospital. They informed me that these antibiotics were usually not prescribed anymore and there were newer, better antibiotics available. The GP told me not to be silly at another visit when I told him that she was allergic to cortisone cream. He prescribed it anyway...now wouldn't it had been more sensible for this fool to wonder why she had allergies and what was she allergic to. I didn't bother to get his prescriptions filled and I found out what she was allergic to and we eliminated that from her diet. No cortisone cream or tablets or any medication necessary. No doctors necessary either...we sorted it out ourselves.

I have mentioned this daughter before and this year her headaches started to come back (she had a continuous headache for over 60 days before she got pregnant). When she started to wean her son it started to come back. I was really worried about hypertension as she was eating excessive amounts of salt. I advised her to cut it out and that really helped, her continuous headache abated within a day. She has also found her neck or back is out of alignment and now she also has massages and that has also helped. She can't at her age be on medication for the rest of her life and I believe its better to get to the cause of it.

I understand there is medication that is vital for some people and they are lucky to have access to it. On the other hand why do some doctors rush for their prescription pads without ever suggesting to people maybe they could look at their lifestyles or the food they eat!

PoppaRob Tue 20-Sept-11 01:20:48

I'm with your JessM. My BP was similar to alchemillamollis' for years, but I knew I just needed to make some lifestyle changes, which of course I didn't. The upside of being on BP medication is a more chilled attitude to life, a headache once a year instead of once every few days and, of course, lower BP... mine normally sits around 115-120/75-80. To get to that revelation just took a mild stroke plus congestive heart failure caused by a dilated cardiomyopathy (enlarged heart). The two weeks in cardiac intensive care while they waited for the meds to kick in hoping that my aorta wouldn't blow like a garden hose were a bit spooky, especially as I couldn't communicate because of the stroke, and the following couple of years of cardiac rehab on a disability pension were boring and did nothing for my financial well-being, but other than that it was a walk in the park.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but if your doctor prescribes medication they're just following evidence based best practice and trying to help.

JessM Mon 19-Sept-11 22:19:35

I'm with harrigran on this. I take mine. Higher BP, and yours (according to current best knowledge) is in that category, gradually damages the inside of your arteries over the years and prepares them nicely for those little fatty plaques to form. Cardiologists would tell you the same. Take the meds and do everything else you can to keep it down.
Of course you could try filling your days with jogging and meditation and do nothing else to try to get it down, but unless that is what you actually want to do....
Sounds like you are just resisting for the sake of it though, rather than having an alternative plan. Sorry to be blunt - but you asked what we think and suggesting that there is a GP plot to get you on these medications and that it is against your best interests seems misguided to say the least.

alchemillamollis Mon 19-Sept-11 22:09:14

Wouldn't it be great if they did get bonuses for getting patients off medication!

The drugs manufacturers wouldn't be too pleased though...grin

harrigran Mon 19-Sept-11 22:04:28

Medics no longer believe that 100 plus your age is a desirable blood pressure, they aim for 120 over 80. My doctor wanted me to take hypotensives with statins and I resisted, stupidly because I then went into hypertensive crisis and had to be hospitalised. Hypertension has no symptoms and you only begin to feel ill when the damage is done. Your GP really does know what he is talking about and you could be putting yourself at risk by ignoring advice.

Notsogrand Mon 19-Sept-11 21:31:03

I only seem to have high blood pressure when pregnant, so if it happens again, someone please call the Guinness Book of Records. smile

However, I've been on statins for years because of high cholesterol. A few weeks ago I persuaded GP to let me come off them and have regular blood tests for lipid levels. She agreed, but only because I convinced her (with plenty of detail) that I'd totally changed my dietary intake. Thanks to the Gransnet diet thread. wink

We're very lucky to live at a time when medication can enhance and even save our lives. We're also lucky to have access via the internet to a mass of information, so we don't have to live by 'the gospel according to GP', and can challenge decisions made by them.

GPs should receive bonuses for getting patients off medication!

alchemillamollis Mon 19-Sept-11 19:46:54

Oh, thanks, I'll have a look for that. smile

There was a big article in the Telegraph recently that I'm considering hitting her on the head with showing her.

Baggy Mon 19-Sept-11 19:44:44

No, haven't needed to, but if you really mean it you might like to read Anthony Colpo's book The Great Cholesterol Con, ISBN 978-1-4303-0933-8 and then quote it at your GP.

alchemillamollis Mon 19-Sept-11 19:11:48

GPs are obsessed with trying to bully me into taking meds for high blood pressure. I'm 56 and my BP is usually around 146 over 95, say.

AFAIK, they used to calculate a good BP by adding your age to 100 - so 156 for the top figure should be fine for me.

I just hate the way they try to scare me into taking pills. sad angry

I think they get bonuses for getting people onto them. Has anyone beaten their doc off?