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Vaginal atrophy

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Marelli Wed 09-Jan-13 17:21:35

I've just had a phone call from my friend who was really upset. She's been diagnosed with Vaginal Atrophy and her GP (female) says she'll just have to put up with it - it's her age....hmm. My friend (E) has had breast cancer so cannot have HRT.
She asked me to look on the internet to see if I could find out about any treatment that might be suitable for her. However, I feel that she has been treated very badly by her GP and should ask to see another doctor in the practice. She's reluctant to do this as all of the others are male.
I feel as if she has been really badly treated.

Cate Mon 30-Sep-13 12:44:53

Just come across this site having been on what seems like all the internet sites in the world since June. It's a super site. 3 months ago I was diagnosed with VA and prescribed an ecream but it doesn't seem to make it any better. I have tried Vaseline, virgin oil and nappy cream!!! Now my GP (female in Spain) who is great, gave me new one so I am trying that. However, women on one forum heavily recommended a product called YES. I have been on their UK site and it is organic cream approved by the Soil Association and various organic bodies. Has anyone used it for VA? Would be interested to hear. Nice to meet you all.

Mamie Thu 21-Feb-13 13:26:47

That is good news, Marelli.
Personality changes? Um, don't think so though I know I am calmer and happier now I have got the other side of the menopause.

Mamalinda Thu 21-Feb-13 10:22:17

Has anyone that used the Vagifem had any personality changes? I found it to be excellent at dealing with the problem but as time went on I became quite fiery and aggressive - well to be honest all my emotions became more extreme so I stopped using it as although I felt more sexy and my equipment was Ok to use my hubby was not interested as my mood was not conducive to getting cuddly.

Nelliemoser Sun 03-Feb-13 19:42:34

Marelli Maybe the lack of sympathy is why first doctor is a still a locum.

Marelli Sun 03-Feb-13 19:32:48

My friend (whom I wrote about in the OP) has been back to see her GP. Apparently the doctor (female) that she saw in the first instance, was a locum and had been quite unsympathetic towards a number of patients. E's GP (male) is now referring her to a gynaecologist.

JessM Sun 03-Feb-13 18:55:01

Hello justrolljanet. I was just scrolling down "I'm on" and there you were with your recommendation. Welcome.
I'm trying Boots own brand silky lubricant at the moment. It seems quite good. Much better than the rather gloopy gels (KY, durex etc)

justrolljanet Fri 01-Feb-13 22:04:54

Multi-Gyn Actigel, the best thing I ever bought from Amazon, I am unable to take HRT due to a problem with my womb,I use it infrequently now it worked a miracle.

Nelliemoser Sun 27-Jan-13 22:30:56

Kitty I keep thinking of uses in the garden to mark the rows of seedlings or such, but as you say, it would be very embarrasing. grin

Marelli Sun 27-Jan-13 21:41:44

Mrsmopp, I'm having coffee with my friend on Thursday, so I'll suggest that to her. So many helpful comments to my original post. smile

JessM Sun 27-Jan-13 19:09:07

There's an idea mrsmopp for those who don't have an understanding GP

kittylester Sun 27-Jan-13 18:05:17

Nellie you'd then have to explain where you got them. blush

mrsmopp Sun 27-Jan-13 17:54:52

You can go to your local hospital Genito Urinary clinic without a referral or an appointment. We have a female consultant in ours who is brilliant. Check before you go what days/times they have the walk in. Some people think they only deal with sexually transmitted diseases but its not true. You will be seen by an expert and get the right help. They are specialists - I'd rather go there than to my GP. Less embarrassing too.

Nelliemoser Fri 18-Jan-13 19:50:28

My problem wasn't caused by shower products they just made things worse.

Irritation by shower products might cause similar discomfort. But in AV the tissues in the vagina are lacking in oestrogens which vagifem provides.

They have made such a difference to me.

I have a problem though in that I keep wanting to find some good use for the used blue sticks! grin

kittylester Fri 18-Jan-13 19:41:39

My problem wasn't thrush!!

Greynshady Fri 18-Jan-13 19:22:11

Sorry I'm a late comer to this thread. This is a hot topic with me and my close friends as between us as we are all effected in one way or another. My GP readily prescribed Vagifem but friend's not so keen - she insisted that this was more likely a dermatological issue caused by shower products. She was prescribed Dermol 100 wash which worked a treat and the thrush symptoms have gone. It comes in a shower or bath version, you can buy it in Boots but she got a free script (in Scotland). Hope this helps someone ��

Ylil Sun 13-Jan-13 11:49:55

Mamie I tried it for six months.n

jeni Sun 13-Jan-13 11:27:38

Recurrent thrush can also be due to diabetes

Mamie Sun 13-Jan-13 11:22:27

How long did you try it for Ylil? It can take several months to work and my UTIs got worse before they got better. I think if the atrophy is advanced, it takes quite a long time to rebuild the vaginal wall.

Ylil Sun 13-Jan-13 11:17:03

Tird = tried

Ylil Sun 13-Jan-13 11:15:09

I have VA and tird vagifem but it made no difference to me. We haven't had sex for a number of years now. sad

JessM Sun 13-Jan-13 10:45:20

Lovely to hear from you jcdoh and that is very interesting that a B vitamin seems to help your thrush.
There does seem to be one study that studied this effect. See link. The original article is a pay per view academic study - but it was conducted by a reputable research team. smile It was done on mice. sad As with most primary research. So it was not the kind of study where they got humans with thrush to take vitamin and measured the outcomes compared to those who took a dummy pill.
One study does not prove anything - which never stops the vitamin industry pushing things into the market.

www.wellnessresources.com/studies/niacinamide_helps_combat_candida_albicans/
I cannot see any "citations" which probably means that nobody has picked this up in the last 2 years and had a paper published. But there might be some in the pipeline.

Lots of information including potential side effects of taking too much niacin in wikipedia. And the foods that provide it in the diet. Nearly always better to get your vitamins from food.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niacin
Thank you for sharing your experience.

Grannyknot Sun 13-Jan-13 10:37:33

Dear jcdoh your post makes it clear that a good doctor should always listen to the patient (as has been said on other threads). My husband was given niacin when he was younger as part of treatment for acne, and he was warned that he would experience hot flushes. flowers to all and onwards and forwards!

jcdoh Sun 13-Jan-13 10:05:27

hi I am in my 70s, and have suffered thrush since reaching 11 yrs;
dr; always made a issue of implying that only once or twice a year -is norm; and oral treatment should not be requested more often! when it became available over counter my life was easier and happier; but then came the over 60s --no sell ! yes I lied as I am young looking for my age, then I asked daughters to do so for me, over counter!
then in U.S.A. I noted on shelves a product called niacin which on reading contents/ it said -VIT B,s mostly, and as I had noted on any thrush treatments was - always there would be this name-niacin ; so I brought them being vitamins seemed very healthy ? and on the `next time' I tried ONE tablet, I felt a bit strange and got a little hot, as in a hot flush but for a short time - but it worked I was free of thrush within a day, needless to say this I did each time it re-accured, I also noted every time prior to thrush I would be craving sweet things and it was almost impossible to refuse eating such!
recently my dr had me tested for vit b 12, which I am low on, (this is not one within niacin), because I am so deaf now, which makes consultations with dr very hard, I seem to get the `push off' feeling when I go for any help, embarrassed that all and sundry can hear what the dr needs to tell me !! result I rarely go there.
it is like being in a glass box, ones sees all that happens and can talk--but cannot hear any form of communication! even with NHS hearing aids. I text and email- but not the same;
hope this info; may help someone ! happy new year to all, enjoyed the funny ones.

sixtiesgirl Sat 12-Jan-13 22:19:21

Having lengthy experience with all illnesses named in this forum, I am sad that after all these years of suffering I have had to take things into my own hands, compile information gleened over the years and embark on treating myself. As a result, I am better than I have been for a very long time. GPs are not very consistant in their views of these things and we can become confused by visiting different doctors giving us different views. There clearly is inadequate interest and research into older womens' problems. I have to say I am lately experiencing the 'older person' attitude from not only GPs but other public services also. I am not happy at this atall.

jeni Fri 11-Jan-13 20:15:30

That's what I said!
Goodnight