lifting heavy grandchild

There was no need to name the child or show his face, Rosequartz.
It may well have been reported elsewhere, but I haven't seen it, but you provided the link to the DM.
My point was not that we should not be concerned about obese children, but we should be concerned about their privacy.
A few years ago a 6 year-old boy from North Tyneside was taken into care because he was clinically obese, but his name and image were not plastered over either the national or the local press.

I will try to do the link from the daily telegraph if that would be preferable.

However, after a day of looking after not very well DGD and getting over the virus myself as well, then I may just

Don't bother, Rosequartz

The link from The Telegraph includes a video. Presumably acceptable as long as it is not the DM.

No. Not acceptable. You have not understood janea's comment about a child's entitlement to privacy.

Thank you Bags

A photo of this child is on my BT Home Page. His name, weight etc., and information about his family is 'out there' and not just in the DM.

I take that point. However, it was a cheap shot at the DM as it has been widely reported worldwide and the mother seemed more than happy with the publicity.

I have noticed that anyone who provides a link to an article in the DM is fair game, and apparently sets themselves up for a fair amount of abuse on GN. I should have learnt over the past month or so since I joined and from noting reactions to other people's experiences at the hands of some GNetters.
There was I thinking it would be a good place to exchange views, tips and information in a civilised fashion.

Apparently there is quite a lot that I 'do not understand' according to some posters. Do I want to be lectured to at my time of life?

Take no notice, rosequartz - there are plently of non-Guardian readers on here who aren't afraid to admit it!

I was not criticising you, Rosequartz, and I don't understand why you see yourself as 'fair game'.
If you had initially provided the link to the Telegraph, or any other publication, I would have made the same comment.

Ana, I thought many kept their heads below the parapet for reasons which are becoming obvious.

(Sigh) Any one is entitled to their opinion, are't they?

It did sound critical Jane even if you didn't intend it to be.

They certainly used to, rosequartz, but there does seem to be a rather more level playing ground these days.

I'll drink to that

jane's, comment was critical of newspaper and other media for invading a child's privacy. It was not aimed at the DM or Telegraph or any other individual publication.

I'm getting so tired of hearing the DM v Guardian snarking. Both are typical newspapers. Both report some stuff well and both produce a lot of garbage too, as do most daily newspapers, as does the BBC news service, etc, etc.

And, in particular, it wasn't aimed at a gransnetter.

Thu 20-Mar-14 21:50:07

'The DM is disgusting' sounds pretty targeted to me.

This photo, wherever published, is turning the child into a freak show.
Getting rather fed up with any criticism of the DM being taken personally by members who then try to cast themselves in the role of victim. If you disagree with someone, argue back in a reasoned manner, don't play the "you're getting at us poor defenceless DM readers again so I'll keep my head down now" card.

OMGoodness. I came on here to see if there were any more good ideas for lifting a heavy grandchild. I like the idea of using plastic steps, one of those fold up stools might do the trick although my boot is not huge and is always full of recycled bags and pushchairs. As a fellow back sufferer I will certainly give it a try.

Excellent advice from you too Mishap thanks.

My sister suffers from RA but was determined to look after her youngest grandchild as she had the other two. Watching her handling the baby was fascinating...and safe I hasten to add.

I found the link to the picture of this little lad completely unnecessary on this thread about the difficulty of lifting a heavy grandchild.

ffinnochio quite.

When having to lift a child, say, into a supermarket trolley, put your hands round the child's chest tell them to jump and 'catch' them at the top of there jump. It takes a bit of practice but works a treat. The child I used this trick with is now 30 and 6ft 6ins. ( not that that is of the slightest relevence!)

It's getting their legs into the appropriate bits of the trolley too Hunt. I often get both legs into same opening. And getting them out involves a lot of heaving.

I really don't think it's safe for your son to be still using supermarket trollies in this way.