I think kale is the new cabbage. I love kale but can only eat cabbage raw - as in coleslaw.... I make a super soup with lentils and kale - very cleansing it is too 
Joanna Lumley doesn't need to diet - does she? I do agree with roses that she is becoming more horse-like and I find her increasingly gushing voice very irritating. Nuff said
(only jealous)
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Never heard of that one, jingl...

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