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Dangers of NSAIDs?

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noodles Sat 10-May-14 11:28:59

I have rheumatoid arthritis and take prednisilone, leflunamide, omeprazprole and ibroprofen on a daily basis. I also take methotrexate weekly. My quality of life on these drugs is pretty good though I walk using two sticks.

Without these meds. I would be back in a wheelchair and in much more pain. I made the decision to enjoy a good quality of life now (I'm 67), rather than stagger, or rather be wheeled into my later years to suffer a more pain and more (shudder) personal care. I have monthly blood tests and see a consultant at least twice a year, and currently feel really good.

Whatever choice you make has to be an informed one - I have more faith in rheumatologists than the press, and I'm happy with my choice.

Having read this, it sounds very po-faced and bossy sorry...I'm not really an old misery!

rosequartz Sat 10-May-14 10:47:59

I mentioned on the other thread about Omeprazole that our GP practice is trying to take patients off diclofenac.

My GP did suggest taking ibuprofen if and when needed, perhaps if walking a lot, but I am wary of those as well.
So I am hobbling more lately, as paracetamol doesn't seem to hit the spot and I am wary of taking those as well.

POGS Sat 10-May-14 10:38:03

I take Tramadol, Meloxicam, Indapemide and occassionaly Diazapam if I go in to 'spasm'.

I am fully aware that is a cocktail for disaster but the alternative is a life of misery so that's why people take the chance.

I had a work mate who lost her father by taking Aspirin and my dear dad had two bouts of internal bleeding, due to Aspirin.

If one thing doesn't get you another thing will, it's a chance you take I suppose.

It depends if you think you could without them then do so.

janerowena Sat 10-May-14 10:34:20

After ten years on Diclofenac/Naproxen I became very ill, it affected my liver, I had ulcers and sent my blood pressure sky high.

But oh how I miss it... However I am wary of even taking the odd ibuprofen now. I only take it when I know I am going to have a long walk on uneven ground, (hips and knees and bones in right foot) or go swimming (right shoulder) or do a lot of weeding (fingers and wrist). I do cope, but those ten years between 2000 and 2010 when I could dig all day on just one tablet seem wonderful now.

In the end, it's all going to come down to quality of life, isn't it. I started to suffer from arthritis at only 40, the thought of my activities being curtailed for the rest of my life is appalling. If given the choice, I would rather stay on the tablets and have another good ten years and manage to take some exercise and get my weight back down. I would insist on having omeprazole at the same time. But my doctors won't let me, they would rather I carry on another ten years in pain and then have hip and knee replacements - by which time they will say I am too fat for them!

Rowantree Sat 10-May-14 09:08:38

I didn't keep the article unfortunately. And it's very frustrating that these articles seem to generalise, or raise concerns without putting them into proper context. However, it seems that the risks are well documented in this case - I didn't know. I don't take them regularly, just as and when, and I find that the lysine form seems to work better, but I don't know why! Anyone any idea? Maybe it helps absorption in some way, but that also might make it more of a health risk? Erghhhhhh..... sad

JessM Fri 02-May-14 19:22:46

rowantree vast numbers of people take the odd dose or two. Some people are on max dose all the time and surely they are the ones at risk of side effects.

Iam64 Fri 02-May-14 18:45:57

tanith - I'm with you on the costs v benefits of anti inflammatories. I'm very careful, but when the pain/stiffness and the tiredness that comes with it kick in, I take naproxen. It has a stomach coater, and I also take omezrapole. The links with anti inflammatories and heart attacks/stomach problems are well known. I do wonder about the heart attack findings. The highest cause of death amongst patients with inflammatory type arthritis, is heart problems. If not kept in check by disease modifiers (that doesn't include anti inflammatories) the inflammation effecting joints can cause inflammation of other major organs, including the heart.

nightowl Fri 02-May-14 18:37:23

It's a statistician you need jen not a mathematician. What does the 1/100 refer to - 1/100 people? At what dose?

durhamjen Fri 02-May-14 18:28:11

I have read it and am glad that I cannot take Ibuprofen.
However, I have lots of other tablets which have worrying side effects.
Mathematicians among you, I take three different tablets each one having a 1/100 risk of liver damage. Two of them I take once a day, and the third one three times a day. What is my risk of having liver damage from these?

tanith Fri 02-May-14 12:09:06

I thought it was quite well publicised that NSAID's have some worrying side affects and in my case weighing up the pros and cons I decided to carry on taking my NSAID Naproxen which I have been taking for multiple joint O/A as the pain and inflammation makes my life miserable without them. I am taking the highest dose my GP will prescribe and have been taking it for probably 10yrs , I do try my best to excercise and keep my weight down and check my BP regularly I figure I am doing all I can to keep the balance of probability of not suffering a stroke/heart attack on my side by being aware of the risks.

Like many with painful conditions weighing up the chances of stroke/heart attack against suffering the pain every day is a personal choice at the end of the day.. why not discuss the options with your GP and then you will can decide or search for more info.

annodomini Fri 02-May-14 11:57:16

I mentioned on the Omeprazole thread that I attributed many of my problems to Diclofenac which is a NSAID.

Marelli Fri 02-May-14 11:02:21

I'd been prescribed Naproxen for bad shoulder pain. When I attended physio she said that she wasn't at all in favour of NSAID's, and although I'd been prescribed them, she would have preferred me to take paracetamol for the pain. I have really sore joints sometimes (feet at the moment!)and paracetamol doesn't really hit the target, but I'm wary of ibuprofen. hmm

Elegran Fri 02-May-14 10:53:02

I think small doses fairly often or the occasional use of a bigger dose as a one-off are OK. If you get indigestion after using it, then stop and consult your doctor, and don't make a habit of taking the maximum recommended dose.

Does you GP know exactly how much you take, and is he/she concerned? Take these media scare stories with a pinch of salt.

Rowantree Fri 02-May-14 10:37:20

I recently read something in the Grauniad (the second section, the column written by a GP) about taking drugs such as Ibuprofen. I can't find the article now but I seem to recall there were dangers such as heart attack or stroke when taking high doses. I am rather worried about this - when I have symptoms of cystitis I take a largeish dose or two (as advised on the pack, nothing over and above) because it helps with the inflammation as the d-mannose or the antibiotic takes effect. I also take it for headaches sometimes. Has anyone else read anything worrying about NSAIDs? I know that every drug has side-effects, but I'm particularly worried about stroke/heart attack as I'm very overweight and trying to come off antidepressants because they made this problem worse.
If it's not one thing, it's 'tother! I'd like to know/read a balanced evidence-based study about it though.