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Anne58 Thu 10-Jul-14 15:16:48

Afternoon all.

Woke up this morning with e very swollen face, left side from beneath my jaw to my cheekbone. Trundled off to the doctor who said it was a dental abscess and they can no longer prescribe antibiotics for dental problems.

He said I needed to get to a dentist asap. Phoned the nearest one, but they had no appointments available. They said to phone again tomorrow morning, but no guarantee that they would have an appointment. I really need it on the NHS, because we just can't afford the costs for private (not after seeing the size of the vet bill for Maurice)

I have a horrible feeling that when I call tomorrow they will say that they will only see me privately. sad

My GP says that there will be one I can go to if I phone 111, (apparently there has to be the opportunity to be seen by an NHS dentist in an emergency) but it could be some distance away.

It just seems to be one damn thing after another, especially financially.

Elegran Thu 10-Jul-14 19:30:14

You've to be careful with all painkillers, Nonu - too much paracetamol can affect the kidneys irreparably, too much aspirin can make your stomach bleed, and so on.

But paracetamol and ibuprofen alternately, each within their own limits as stated on the packaging, will get Phoenix through the days until she can get something done about the abscess.

Nonu Thu 10-Jul-14 19:43:09

ELEGRAN, well said !

Nonnie Thu 10-Jul-14 19:47:20

Poor you! This is not what I want to read when I come back on Gn after weeks of being so busy! Where is the silver lining in your cloud! You might be driving me to unladylike language, I've had enough of your troubles so can't imagine how you must be feeling. ENOUGH. STOP IT whatever is sending Phoenix too much for anyone to have to deal with. Feel unsatisfying a petition if only I knew where to send it.

Anne58 Thu 10-Jul-14 19:47:28

hello again, I'm alternating the paracetamol with ibuprofen, doc said it was ok, so at least that means tablets every 2 hours instead of 4.

It's painful, but bearable, will try to have an early night and be ready to get on the case tomorrow!

Sods law that these things happen when the weekend is nigh!

Tegan Thu 10-Jul-14 20:03:22

I was told that doctors have no training whatsoever with regards to anything dental; ours always sent people to a dentist.

Deedaa Thu 10-Jul-14 21:14:37

I've got an infected tooth that flairs up from time to time and I've found it responds very well to ibuprofen. The alternative is to have it out, but I want to hang on to it as long as I can.

Mishap Thu 10-Jul-14 21:31:27

My OH, who worked as a GP, always prescribed the relevant antibiotic to someone with obvious tooth abscess if dentist not available; with the instruction to go to dentist as soon as possible. Makes sense.

Anne58 Fri 11-Jul-14 08:57:21

Morning all,

Well, just phoned the dentist and they can see me this afternoon at 5pm. I hope they do understand that it needs to be NHS, not private, although NHS charges are now around £50 (I think) it is still a lot less than private.

Got through the night reasonably well, although did wake up at 2.30 and took a couple of tablets as it was starting to throb again.

Charleygirl Fri 11-Jul-14 09:04:20

Google "emergency dental care at North Devon" and you will find a dental practice which is open until 10pm at night and they will see NHS patients. As far as I am aware it is not the hospital but not 100% on that one.

Very miserable for you.

annodomini Fri 11-Jul-14 09:06:47

Good luck with the dentist, phoenix. A tooth abscess is torture. I speak from experience. However there is nothing to beat the relief when the pressure of the infection is released.

Anne58 Fri 11-Jul-14 09:13:01

Actually it's not too bad, the tablet combination seems to be working, although I still know when the next lot are due!

I'm just having a cup of coffee, and so far managing to not dribble too much grin

I now know what my face would look like if I had botox on one side.......

kittylester Fri 11-Jul-14 09:29:41

NHS charge for Band 2 is £50.50 phoenix. But, if you only need an examination and prescription, you might be Band 1 which is £18.50.

I don't know what benefits you are on (if any) but some mean you don't have to pay anything. Not up to date with benefits for people of your young age grin and which ones count but you should be able to google it. Dh's patients are generally somewhat older!

Anne58 Fri 11-Jul-14 09:51:35

No benefits at all kitty, but I think it will be examination, x ray & prescription at this stage, then some treatment to sort it all out.

I know that there is a maximum charge on the NHS for any one course of treatment, and if you think about it £50 is quite reasonable if you are having a few fillings, scale and polish etc, so I am hoping that they did understand my elephant man mumblings re. charges, as the private costs listed on some dentists websites make your eyes water!

merlotgran Fri 11-Jul-14 10:07:37

Phoenix, can you not register with them as an NHS patient in case you need further treatment?

We only pay NHS charges whenever we need treatment.

Mishap Fri 11-Jul-14 10:10:10

I am registered with an NHS dentist and the charges are very small.

Anne58 Fri 11-Jul-14 10:36:27

This might sound daft, but I think I am registered with them. There was a lot of excitement when they first opened up, as previously there had been no NHS dentist in Holsworthy, although there were 3 private ones, which seems a lot for such a small town!

I remember phoning them and adding our names to their register, but looking at their website, I think they only regard you as a registered patient once you go for your first check up, not if your first visit is an emergency one.

merlotgran Fri 11-Jul-14 10:49:05

Yes. They are quite strict about keeping appointments for check ups etc. When we get our reminders I have to nag DH to keep his because I don't want us to be struck off the list.

Anne58 Fri 11-Jul-14 14:29:51

Well, they phoned to say there was a cancellation and would I like to go at 12.30, so I did. £18.50 to pay, which is standard NHS charge, so that was ok. Examination, x ray & prescription for antibiotics.

The result is that the tooth will have to come out, as there is insufficient bone to hold it in place sad I've had loads of surgery on both my upper and lower jaws, including bone grafts etc.

I'm pretty peed off, as there is already a gap to one side of that tooth, so now there will be a two tooth gap, and it will show. So, the only option to fill it is a denture. Not happy.

anneey Fri 11-Jul-14 15:22:16

Dentists and Doctors just don't seem to get on these Days. My sympathies Phoenix, your experience was so wrong.
I recently had a 2 hour Dental Appointment, and due to my back problem, I asked my Dentist for Diazapam... at times after lying on my Back, I have difficulty standing. My Dentist told me to ask my G.P. as the rules had been changed (due to abuse)
I asked my G.P. and she Hit the Roof, said the Dentist was passing his work on to her.
I explained this to my Daughter, and she asked her Dentist about it, and he told her YES the rules had been changed.
So what is going on?

Galen Fri 11-Jul-14 15:27:30

I get on very well pwith my lovely dentist. He always gives me hug and a kiss ad fits me in at the drop of a hat.

shysal Fri 11-Jul-14 15:29:24

Would it not be possible to have a bridge to cover the gap? I have one for a 2 tooth gap, attached to a canine. Unfortunately whatever is done will cost quite a bit! I am pleased you have an NHS dentist at least.
Hope the pain will improve with the antibiotics..

Tegan Fri 11-Jul-14 15:32:11

If you have a NHS dentist and need antibiotics do you have to pay for your prescription even if you don't pay for prescriptions from the Dr?

annodomini Fri 11-Jul-14 15:36:36

Galen, like you, I am on good terms with my dentist. I think I am financing his children's education at private schools! shysal, a bridge is a great alternative to a denture. However, I feel slightly ill when I reflect what else I could have done with the sum I paid for mine. shock

Anne58 Fri 11-Jul-14 15:44:04

Tegan as far as I'm aware, the rules on prescription charges are the same, providing it is an NHS prescription rather than a private one.

Unfortunately I still have to pay for all mine, I'm thinking of asking the GP to prescribe more then a months worth each time, so that, I actually pay a bit less per pack, if that makes sense?

kittylester Fri 11-Jul-14 15:44:59

Tegan no! Any NHS prescription would be under the same conditions. grin