It's ok to eat fat after all, says Michael Mosley

Enjoying my Lurpak as part of a healthy diet! Phew!

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/9993366/Andrew-Marrs-stroke-caused-by-intense-exercise.html

Intense exercise is something that Michael Mosley was advocating not so long ago ]

However, Jingls, we don't know what Andrew Marr's diet was like and whether that contributed to his stroke. He exercised a lot, but also had done a lot of flying when making his documentary series. All sorts of factors could have contributed to what happened. He is very determined to get fit again, and I hope he is doing well now.

One doesn't eat it as fat; one eats it as part of other foods. It's fine to eat the less lean cuts of meat, e.g. by buying the cheaper minced beef with its normal amount of fat instead of going for lean mince that has had a lot of the fat taken out.

However, as usual, we have the choice. If you don't want to eat meat that has all its fat in it, then don't, but it's good that the correct information is now becoming more widespread.

Jingls, I agree with you about Michael Mosley. He is everywhere these days, spouting off as if he discovered all these amazing facts about nutrition and exercise.
thatbags, if you haven't heard of him, lucky you, he is everywhere telling us what we should be doing.

I remember that I had a book on nutrition by Adele Davis years ago; she discovered then that if people dieted and cut out fat that their weight loss stalled; add some good oil or fat to the diet and the weight would begin to come off again.

Too many low fat foods contain sugar to add taste.

Who wants to be full up on fat? Eurgh!

But you do need some.

Eggs, lean beef, lean ham, tinned tuna, salmon. Zero fat Greek yogurt. All low fat and all keep you going amazingly well. It's protein that fills you up in a lasting way.

Jingl there is a natural limit to the amount of fat you can eat - it fills you up, and you feel sick if you eat too much.
It's another reason why so-called lowfat foods don't actually help you lose weight - they're unsatisfying, so instead of waiting till the next meal to eat again, the temptation to fill up with sweet or salty processed snacks is hard to resist.

But I agree with Bags that the real damage has been in people being told to avoid foods which contain essential vitamins and other nutrients.

Whoops! Mosley.

Haven't heard of him either.

PS I've never heard of Michael Moseley.

It isn't always about losing weight. Rather about eating what is good food or at least not avoiding what is good food in some misinformed effort to stay healthy.

The fact is, fat is calorie dense. So, if you need to lose weight it's not gonna help to eat loads of it.

Everyone needs some fat. I will always believe there is good fat (seeds etc) and bad fat (animal). Nothing will change my mind on that, so the so called "experts" are wasting their breath as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, this finding has been known for some time, but of course it challenges the medical establishment, food manufacturers and government gurus who fear the loss of face that will accompany any rowback from their current position.

Suddenly it will be discovered that scientists got it wrong, not because science has moved on and discovered more but because they failed to analyse the original findings properly and find out that the researcher had ignored all countries whose statistics challenged his pet theory.

It is the age old problem of most authorities jumping on a band wagon, once it is rolling because they fear to disagree from the status quo.

Jay Rayner wrote an impassioned article in last week's Observer saying the same thing. And I think thatbags has been saying it on this forum for some time.

The comparison with France is interesting; when we stay with our French relations there is no stinting on butter, creme fraiche, goose and duck fat and so on, but you never see people snacking on sugary sweets, and cakes are an occasional part of a special meal.

It makes sense really because a meal which includes protein and fat will not leave you feeling dreadfully hungry a short while later. And it tastes so much better.

You sure tell it like it is, jingl

But other people have been saying the same thing for some time, but very few people have taken any notice.

AND he makes the money through going on Horizon with it. At our expense through licence fees.

Gordon Bennett! And he's probably got a book out on the strength of that. He made loads of money from that other cobblers he spouted. About that fast and slow training. And Andrew Marr had a stroke.

The man's a money making idiot.

Just eat less.