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Being overweight increases incidence of cancer

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JessM Tue 17-Mar-15 07:21:46

Seriously overweight women have a significantly higher risk of some cancers including 2 of the most common - bowel and post-menopausal breast cancer.
Women seem to be getting bigger and bigger - what on earth could be done to halt or reverse this trend.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-31917876

etheltbags1 Thu 02-Apr-15 21:05:19

will look for these, Rose, they sound really nice. Not tomorrow though cos Im making a crumble for DGD and having it with cream.

rosequartz Thu 02-Apr-15 14:32:46

I must look out for the M&S black cherry yoghurts - I did buy the ones with fruit on the bottom (blackcurrant etc) and they were delicious.
I had full fat M&S Greek style yoghurt this morning with a banana.

etheltbags1 Thu 02-Apr-15 14:16:34

I tried weight watchers yoghurt yesterday and they are fat free and low suger, they are lovely. Thank you whoever suggested them.

JessM Thu 02-Apr-15 14:13:28

Yoghurt wars hmm whatever next smile
most of the milk sugars are converted to lactic acid in yoghurt aren't they Janeainsworth?

Why would one buy a corner yoghurt and not eat the sweet bit... much cheaper to buy a litre of plain and then add things. Walnuts and banana current favourite.
Unless of course it is one of those M and S black cherry corner yoghurts which are pretty splendiferous as an occasional treat. lots of sourish cherries.

rosequartz Tue 31-Mar-15 19:48:35

Yes, I did mean Total yogurt anya
Thanks for the link

I hadn't checked natural sugars content, and I expect the fruit adds more, but I would rather eat that than some of the stuff that has been 'mucked around with'.

You could drive yourself nutty trying to work it all out.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 31-Mar-15 19:25:06

Well yes. It's all here

grin

janeainsworth Tue 31-Mar-15 19:10:19

I'd just like to point out that most of my post at 13:23:04 was a quote from a comment on the article to which Anya provided a link, and was not aimed personally at, or to, her.

Anya Tue 31-Mar-15 14:37:32

Back off JaneA .... have you any idea how aggressive you sound?

Firstly I qualified my post by adding 'if that's the one you mean' but of course if you're looking to be disagreeable when you post then you would blank that I suppose.

Secondly Ethel asked for information on yoghurts with less sugar so I supplied a link I thought might help her.

If you do not like the comparisons on the link then address yourself to those that produced that data and get off my back.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 31-Mar-15 13:39:10

Oh I love Muller Corners. Haven't had one in ages! Oompa diet! tbuhmm

(d'you like my new swearword? [halo])

Re. that article. Those "thickeners and sweeteners have been very thoroughly tested for safety.

janeainsworth Tue 31-Mar-15 13:23:04

Anya the Total yoghurt referred to in the article has the most sugar because it contains honey. Plain Total yoghurt would only contain milk sugars.

I tend to agree with this comment:
Josordoni • 2 years ago
"These ill conceived surveys make me so angry! Total 0% yoghurt is also available plain without any additives, and would be more healthy than some of the other plain yoghurts you are showing, and certainly more healthy than the Shape you awarded 2nd place to , or Weight Watchers which came first, both of which have added chemicals in the form of sweeteners and thickeners. You choose to pick the split pot with pure honey in a side pot, that can be eaten with the plain yoghurt, and then complain it contains sugar. Well how are you going to find a honey that DOESN'T contain sugar?

And the idea of a split pot, likewise a Muller Corner, is so you can add as much or as little as you wish.

Next time please compare like to like, i.e. plain yoghurts against plain yoghurts, and flavoured yoghurts (or yoghurts with flavours to be added, like Muller Corners and Total Split pots) against flavoured yoghurts."

Anya Sun 29-Mar-15 11:36:49

Rose Total 0% yoghurt has the highest sugar count of all if that's the one you mean.

See my link.

loopylou Sun 29-Mar-15 11:00:16

Full fat yogurt is more filling than the low/no fat versions, no additives either.
I buy frozen berries, chuck a handful in and a drop of honey, the berries thaw quickly and sometimes use canned fruit (peaches, apricots, prunes) for a change.
It's often cheaper too than buying fruit yogurts.

rosequartz Sun 29-Mar-15 10:34:00

Ps watch out for artificial sweeteners, I would rather eat a bit of sugar than aspartame.

rosequartz Sun 29-Mar-15 10:32:47

I sometimes buy Liberté yogurts, they do contain 11.4 sugars but they are quite small.

Mostly I buy a big pot of greek style yogurt, Total, Yeo Valley etc and add some fruit.

Anya Sun 29-Mar-15 10:22:48

PS I think you'll need to work backwards

Anya Sun 29-Mar-15 10:21:51

Check this out Ethel

This link will tell you all you need to know. Loopy is right about natural yoghurts too.

loopylou Sun 29-Mar-15 10:16:45

I buy natural yoghurt and add stewed or fresh fruit ethelbags, sometimes just a little honey. Put some in little pots for work.
Rice cakes and peanut butter is my current favourite snack or twiglets.

etheltbags1 Sun 29-Mar-15 10:06:05

can anyone tell me of a brand of low sugar yoghurt, looking in the supermarket the other day I couldn't find one with less then 13% sugars.
I like yoghurt as it is convenient and easy and like other people I just cant be bothered to cook for myself every day.
I also find it hard to find food that is easy to carry around and I get very hungry if Im out, I used to take packed oatcakes etc but they are so dull.
all convenient food is dull and sugary. Theres not much hope for us unless we are terribly self disciplined.

crun Sat 28-Mar-15 15:59:03

jingl I didn’t say that the fish pie is unhealthy, it’s just expensive. Soon asked for examples of processed foods I eat, so that was what I listed. I wasn’t claiming they’re healthy, but I’ve just noticed that Soon asked specifically for healthy processed foods, so it does look that way. I refer you back to what I said about healthy diets and healthy meals, it’s my overall diet that’s healthy, not those particular foodstuffs, and that’s because they’re a relatively small proportion of the total.

As I said you could go round in circles arguing about what constitutes healthy, but the FSA have devised a Nutrient Profile Score, which reduces the nutritional value of foodstuffs to a single index number to enable convenient comparisons. Ofgem already use this NPS to decide which products are banned from advertising to children, so it could be used for adults too. Cambridge University recently used the NPS to show that healthy foodstuffs are typically more expensive too (which is where I discovered it).

Someone suggested taxing unhealthy foods, but people who exercise consume a lot of calories too, not just the obese, so taxing food would be an indirect tax on exercising. I think it would be better to increase the NI contributions of the obese.

This is a lecture from Susan Jebb, Professor of Diet and Population Health at Oxford, the graphic at 6m 35s is interesting. As I thought, the real culprits are not so much the processed foods that make a meal (some of which I do eat), but the likes of cakes, chocolate, fizzy drinks etc., which I never buy. I eat almost nothing from the top third of the chart, and huge quantities from the bottom third, in particular, fruit, veg, cereal, and wholemeal bread.

My “treat” would be a few biscuits, but in general, I find it’s better to cut out the bad things altogether. Firstly, you don’t keep reminding yourself of what you miss, and secondly, you don’t have to keep checking that you’re sticking to a ration. I used to have a serious cheese habit, but I cut it out and just treat myself to a piece of stilton at Xmas now.

To repeat, you don’t need to be a gourmet cooking everything from scratch in order to eat a healthy diet.

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rosequartz Fri 20-Mar-15 17:59:24

I made a lot of jam last autumn.

Perhaps it won't be so bad for me in jam tarts hmm

soontobe Fri 20-Mar-15 11:58:44

The people I know who are fine, health wise, and in their 60s, also say moderation.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 20-Mar-15 10:52:41

I watched that programme. It made me crave jam tarts. hmm