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Coca-Cola and sugar

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thatbags Tue 13-Oct-15 14:38:46

'Shoulds' from a Nestle employee? That would be the company that advertised powdered baby milk in areas of the world where people don't have access to clean water, I suppose?

Gotta laugh.

I think politicians can be against a sugar tax even while agreeing that sugar can have a link with obesity. I'm not in favour of a sugar tax though I'm not totally against it either. I'm just unconvinced of its usefulness. Perhaps that is Jermey Hunt's view too.

Grannyknot Tue 13-Oct-15 14:37:46

I don't know how this is different from the many health and clinical conferences I've been to where a doctor or consultant will put up a 'declaration slide' with all the organisations who have funded their work, including pharma companies of course...

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 13-Oct-15 14:33:16

Oh - you mean the not agreeing with the sugar tax post?

I think people should make their own choices. Whatever some people think, sugar is a food Empty calories, yes, but it gives energy. It's not the same as tobacco or alcohol.

And why penalise little kids if they want to spend some of their pocket money on a little bag of Haribro? hmm

Mamie Tue 13-Oct-15 14:31:07

It should be stated Jings, but sometimes you have to dig deep to follow the money.
Here is the Huffington Post version of the same story.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/10/12/jeremy-hunt-health-sarah-wollaston-sugar-tax_n_8278600.html

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 13-Oct-15 14:29:49

No I haven't!!! hmm Read my post again!

Anya Tue 13-Oct-15 14:21:17

You have shares in Tate and Lyle (sp?) perhaps jingl?

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 13-Oct-15 14:18:21

I don't agree with a sugar tax.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 13-Oct-15 14:17:46

Oh! I can't read that article. The Telegraph's firewall comes down. Grrr!

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 13-Oct-15 14:16:25

I'm not saying I agree with Coca-Cola being allowed to contribute to scientific research where they may have an interest - I don't. But am I right in thinking when any scientific paper has been funded in this way, it has to be stated on the paper?

If I'm wrong, then it should be.

I suppose you could say that any funding into research by the big companies, is a good thing. But it would have to be completely free from any strings. I guess that would not be very likely. hmm

Mamie Tue 13-Oct-15 14:11:13

I have and I think it is really shocking although I am not surprised.
And why does Jeremy Hunt not want to publish the sugar tax report?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11925833/Jeremy-Hunt-should-practise-what-he-preaches.html
So many obfuscations and delays whilst people across the world just get fatter and sicker. sad

Anya Tue 13-Oct-15 13:48:52

Has anyone been following the investigation by The Times into the full scale of Coca-Cola’s funding of scientists?

It would appear that this funding has been used to influence research, and the extent of this has come to light after the government rejected a tax on sugar sweetened drinks, despite support from Chief Medical Officer Dame Sally Davies, the British Medical Association and TV chef Jamie Oliver.

The drinks firm is said to have links to more than a dozen British scientists, including government health advisers, who counter claims that its drinks contribute to obesity

Coca-Cola is said to have provided support, sponsorship or research funding to a variety of British organizations including UKActive, the British Nutrition Foundation, the University of Hull, Homerton University Hospital, the National Obesity Forum, the British Dietetic Association, Obesity Week 2013 and the UK Association for the Study of Obesity.

Through its trade organizations, Coca-Cola representatives have met government officials and ministers more than 100 times between 2011 and 2014, according to The Times. Coca-Cola is also said to host a parliamentary dinner.

Faculty of Public Health board member Simon Capewell accused Coca-Cola of trying to mold public opinion.

“Coca-Cola is trying to manipulate not just public opinion but policy and political decisions. Its tactics echo those used by the tobacco and alcohol industries, which have also tried to influence the scientific process by funding apparently independent groups. It’s a conflict of interest that flies in the face of good practice,” he said.

New York-based nutrition researcher Marion Nestle warned scientists should not take money from Coca-Cola.

“In my opinion, no scientist should accept funding from Coca-Cola. It’s totally compromising. Period. End of discussion,” said Nestle, a professor of nutrition, food studies and public health.

Quotes taken from The Times