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Tegan Fri 09-Sept-16 10:24:34

Did anyone see the article about eye health and supplements? I'm very tempted to start using the eye supplement tablets that were recommended. Strangely enough, last time I had an eye test was the first time ever that I didn't need an 'upgrade' and over the past couple of years I've been drinking a green smoothie almost identical to the one used in the 'experiment'. May buy the tablets and use them on alternate days with my smoothie, especially as they said that there seemed to be a link with macular degeneration and Alzheimers.

Anya Mon 12-Sept-16 09:45:34

Interesring scientific study into macular disease and supplements

The blue link above looks at genuine scientific research into this.

shysal Mon 12-Sept-16 09:37:31

Well, I must be gullible! I have ordered a 3 month supply of Macushield on Ebay for £29.59. That is less than 33p a day.
Next week's programme includes a study on Glucosamine tablets which will interest me as I already take them.

Anya Mon 12-Sept-16 08:39:52

Actually the gluten experiment was quite interesting as, despite being double blind, there was a significant reported increase in stomach discomforts when gluten was being eaten. The physicilgical tests were negative but as MM said, perhaps they weren't testing for the correct chemicals and it might be a disruption in gut flora. Which requires further investigation.

Wobblybits Mon 12-Sept-16 08:26:14

I must watch the program, I have signs of early stage dry AMD in one eye, doesn't effect my vision atm and the optician says it is slow to develop so is unlikely to become a problem. However it can develop into wet AMD, so anything that can protect my eyes would be welcome.

soldiersailor Mon 12-Sept-16 07:46:44

My late father had macular degeneration, first in one eye, then a year or so later, within a matter of hours, the second was affected. He was effectively blind. There have been major advances in treatment now, but Dad was told it was almost certainly due to his having smoked for some 40 years, though not excessively.

Tegan Sun 11-Sept-16 23:46:10

I wondered where he'd got to; yes, I liked him. Michael Mosley [sp] seems to have found a bit of a niche for himself on the BBC which is why I don't take him too seriously these days. I find gluten free stuff food a bit slimy so I would have thought during the experiment they would have known if they were eating gluten free [although I haven't tried the pasta, just the bread].One of my doctors was at medical school with Harry Hill; you have to have a bit of a sense of humour if you work in the NHS, albeit a somewhat black one.The girl behind the counter at Boots was quite interested in my explanation as to why their shelf of Macu Shield had been emptied.

durhamjen Sun 11-Sept-16 22:46:01

I do prefer the original Trust me, I'm a Doctor, Phil Hammond, who takes the mick out of the medical profession, although there's a lot of serious stuff behind it. He writes the Medicine Balls column in Private Eye.

durhamjen Sun 11-Sept-16 22:43:20

Actually, I missed the fact that it was on, and watched it on iplayer because of this thread.
The resultson that seemed quite interesting, and I would have thought that anyone who could be suffering from MD should find it quite a useful supplement to take, particularly if you do not eat many fruit and vegetables. The fact that it could also affect Alzheimers is also worth thinking about.

Interesting what you say about the placebo effect, as I thought that about the glutenfree tests. Even though they knew that it didn't have that much physiological effect, most of them said they would use more glutenfree products from now on because they said they felt better; and why not. After all, food choices are up to the individual. I eat quite a lot of glutenfree products, simply because I like them.

Tegan Sun 11-Sept-16 22:21:15

I have tended, of late, to not watch Michael Mosleys programmes..he did seem to be on the telly rather a lot. I don't think, however, that I've ever known him to be so emphatic about the benefits of taking a particular product so, for that reason, I'm prepared to buy it, especially as I tend not to eat a terribly well balanced diet. My health, at this moment in time could, quite frankly be a lot better than it is so, if something makes me feels better [albeit in a placebo sort of way] I'm happy to go along with it. And, if I can bring a certain amount of amusement to some peoples lives, well, even better#laughteristhebestmedicineafterall

durhamjen Sun 11-Sept-16 21:41:12

No. It's just you think it's okay to tell Tegan she's so gullible without having appeared to watch the part of the programme she was talking about.
She said that having watched the programme she had decided it was worth buying the capsules.
I think that's rather rude.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 11-Sept-16 20:42:24

Yes. Watched some of the earlier ones, and had a quick look at this one.
Why? You want to pick a fight? hmm

durhamjen Sun 11-Sept-16 20:37:17

Have you seen the programme, jingl?

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 11-Sept-16 20:32:41

Hasn't everybody realised yet that you just can't trust those particular doctors.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 11-Sept-16 20:31:06

People are so gullible. grin

Tegan Sun 11-Sept-16 19:22:46

Macu Shield totally sold out at Boots so bought Boots Opti Health which have Lutein and Zeaxanthin in. Get a discount at Boots so they worked out at less than £10 plus got points on my Boots card.

grandMattie Fri 09-Sept-16 17:23:41

BTW calendula lotion is fabulous for burns. the pain goes away like magic and it heals very fast...

pensionpat Fri 09-Sept-16 17:08:00

The clue is in the thread title. Duh!

pensionpat Fri 09-Sept-16 17:06:49

What was the title of the programme please?

durhamjen Fri 09-Sept-16 17:02:21

It would take a lot more celandine than marigolds. Celandine are those small yellow woodland flowers with about ten petals, which flower before the trees produce their leaves in the spring.
I always have calendula cream in my bathroom, in case the kids graze themselves. The lotion is also good for rashes, particularly if they itch. Just hadn't realised that calendula was a type of marigold. I always call it calendula.

grandMattie Fri 09-Sept-16 16:44:12

grin tegan

Durhamjen, the marigolds in question are calendula or pot marigolds not tagetes or French marigold. I'm not sure celandines are edible, though they may be used as tinctures.

I saw some of that programme too - no MD history in the family, but a lot of dementia. Shall make sure I include more dark coloured fruit and veg in my diet. We already eat at least 7 a day, but i may well up it.

Elegran Fri 09-Sept-16 16:12:09

Yes! Marigolds and celandines have a lot of zeaxanthin.

Elegran Fri 09-Sept-16 16:10:13

Oooh Ah - "Apart from being found in plant based foods, zeaxanthin can be found in the macula lutea (an oval shaped, highly pigmented yellow spot close to the centre of the retina of the human eye" freefitnesstips.co.uk/zeaxanthin-explained/

Elegran Fri 09-Sept-16 16:06:51

Their website says "GoldenEye® 0.15% w/w Eye Ointment contains the active ingredient Dibrompropamidine isetionate, to kill bacteria that cause eye and eyelid infections like conjunctivitis, blepharitis (inflammation of the eyelids) and styes." . . . . "The other ingredients are liquid paraffin and dispersed polyethylene in mineral oil." Doesn't mention marigolds.

Interesting that celandines (also golden) are traditionally an eye treatment, so is eyebright, which has a golden patch on it.

DanniRae Fri 09-Sept-16 16:05:54

Just watched this programme. The supplement for eyes has to have: Lutein / Zeaxanthin / Meso Zeaxanthin

They have Macu Shield on Amazon - I just checked, but very expensive so not sure if I will buy it. My eyes are fine at the moment but if it prevents Alzheimers too...........?

grannylyn65 Fri 09-Sept-16 15:37:32

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