Frustrated beyond belief.

Obviously annoyed you there, not my intention
You didn't mention menapause in your original post though so can only try and answer what was coming over
I ll withdraw now, hope it improves soon

rubylady, I've had those menopausal symptoms too, but I am a great believer in homeopathy and it has worked for me. People may sneer at homeopathy, and that's fine, they are entitled to their opinion, but I know it works so I carry on with it. Rhus Tox 30 is a good remedy for restless legs when you're overtired. It works within 15 minutes for me. The best remedy for that feeling as if insects are crawling all over you (a really horrible feeling - its official name is formication ... with an M and not an N ) is something called Psorinum 30. Rhus Tox is available in Boots but Psorinum is one of the lesser known remedies. I buy my more unusual remedies from a homeopathic chemist who will post them to you, called Buxton and Grant in Bristol. I don't know if I'm allowed to put their phone number here but you can google them. After 2 doses of Psorinum, I never had that horrible crawly insect feeling again, and was cross with myself that I'd put up with it for 2 years.

Good luck.

That all sounds fine BlueBelle but, because I am going through the menopause I only get four hours sleep at night so if I was in bed at 10 every night, I would be back up at 2 am. It's been like this for a few years now and I know it needs to change but it is not going to happen overnight.

My mind is not roaring on, I just start twitching with my muscles, involuntarily. It's all the hormones changing etc. I just wanted to see if anyone else had suffered and what they did.

Thank you for your post though, I will try counting sheep.

Not probably what you want to hear but your mind is so concentrated on the fact that you 'need' to go to sleep that your anxiety is keeping you awake all those different 'cures' ' in one night will have put your body on high alert 12 is too late to go to bed anyway remember that old saying that the sleep you get before midnight is most valuable I don't feel at all relaxed reading this I feel you're so desperate youre running around like a headless chicken The warm bath and chosen drink should have happened at 10 or 10 30 then tucked up in bed with maybe some soft music or similar and the old counting sheep is a great one I do girls or boys names starting with A I never seem to get passed A occasionally B it actually stops you thinking about sleep another good one is imaging a completely black blank picture, nothing, .... basically you need to be rid of all those intrusive thoughts It doesn't matter how much you relax your body if your mind it roaring on you will stay awake