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Cheese is the new poison

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thatbags Sat 04-Feb-17 16:32:57

According to a leading American quack doctor cheese is addictive and it is what is making us fat, not sugar. His name's Neal Barnard and he has written a book called The Cheese Trap: How Breaking a Surprising Addiction Will Help You Lose Weight, Gain Energy, and Get Healthy.

One of the comments after the article I've just read does point out that he's American and that Americans don't understand cheese.

lefthanded Sun 05-Feb-17 16:12:56

Like granny23 I am cheese-intolerant. No cheese for me. Not ever. Not in any whey, shape or form. ? (Sorry).

Seriously though, one of my cousins suffers from the same problem but she has discovered that she can eat buffalo mozzarella without adverse effect. But I have never tried it.

Araabra Sun 05-Feb-17 16:20:49

Americans don't seem to like good wholesome food, do they? Their cheese, breads, puddings are just awful. The cream is thin, eggs and butter are flavorless, and their produce is dodgy. For all that they are plump and don't walk about much.

seadragon Sun 05-Feb-17 16:53:35

My sister was once engaged to a man who hated blue cheese........ I knew it wouldn't last!!

nancan Sun 05-Feb-17 17:22:13

Ovenbottom

1974cookie Sun 05-Feb-17 17:32:49

Yet another thing that is bad for us !!!!!!
Sorry, but I shall continue to enjoy my Colton Basset Stilton cheese on some deliciously crumbly oatcakes.
I have a theory about all these foods etc that you should give up for health reasons.

It is not so much that you live any longer.
It is just that you are so flaming miserable having given up these pleasures in life, that life itself seems dull and positively endless.

rafichagran Sun 05-Feb-17 17:40:19

I love cheese and although now have to maintain a healthy diet I will eat it sensibly.

Lewlew Sun 05-Feb-17 17:42:36

There are great cheeses in the US, as someone said you have to buy them from a deli. They do NOT have a lovely whole aisle dedicated to cheeses as they do here or in France or Italy. I really like the selection here.

I lived in NH, next to Vermont who produce masses of wonderful cheeses, so was very spoilt. The Green Bay Packers (Wisconsin) are called the Cheeseheads grin

Last May the Smithsonian Magazine and Bloomber both filed reports of a massive cheese glut!

www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/us-has-massive-cheese-surplus-180958985/

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/u-s-cheese-inventories-soar-to-highest-since-1984

Jalima Sun 05-Feb-17 17:46:06

Having read the above posts and taking note of 1974's theory, I am going to have a small portion of cheese and a glass of wine whilst I am cooking dinner grin

MeltonMatthew Sun 05-Feb-17 18:57:57

British Cheese is undergoing a renaissance at the moment with many new cheese makers starting up making both pasteurised and raw milk cheeses. I organise an artisan cheese fair and last year we managed to get over 60 cheesemakers to attend – that’s an impressive 300 cheeses between them! The French used to boast that they could eat a different cheese each day, in the British Isles we can now eat cheese from a different cheesemaker every day!

Sheilasue Sun 05-Feb-17 19:02:14

Can't beat a piece of cheese with a chunk of crusty bread and pickle

GrandmaMoira Sun 05-Feb-17 19:27:10

Lupin - Is your board game Buccaneer? We had that when I was a child and I've never seen or heard of it since. I really liked it, along with Monopoly and Scrabble.

GrandmaMoira Sun 05-Feb-17 19:29:49

I used to eat cheese every day but eat less now so as to help control my weight. However, I'd much rather eat cheese than chocolate or anything else sweet.

rosesarered Sun 05-Feb-17 19:30:52

The best cheese for cheese on toast is....
1 Wensleydale
2 mature cheddar
3 double glos with chives

( other views are available) grin

Jalima Sun 05-Feb-17 19:32:21

Oh damn!
I forgot the cheese and wine and had a very dry sherry and a raw sprout.
it was probably vegan but it's just not the same grin

rosesarered Sun 05-Feb-17 19:34:56

A raw sprout! OMG you must be hungry Jalima grin

thatbags Sun 05-Feb-17 19:55:13

Creamy Mrs Kirkham Lancashire on toast, roses. Hands down. ?

Nanna58 Sun 05-Feb-17 20:18:43

Dessert was Stilton, Manchego, and Brie with red onion marmalade and oatcakes - what the hell do Americans know about cheese , in fact about decent food in general!

EllenT Sun 05-Feb-17 21:39:36

thatbags - cheese making Mrs Kirkham's grandmother was my grandmother's cousin. Or something like that. My mother always had some Lancashire in the house and I really miss the real thing, doesn't seem to travel well even if bought from a proper cheese shop.

Peaseblossom Sun 05-Feb-17 22:04:42

Lona What is a "soft oven bottom"?!

M0nica Sun 05-Feb-17 22:05:02

AS soon as I read this I cut myself a really large slice of cheese. I love cheese, I have been eating it all my life and I am not overweight, I am in good health and have plenty of energy.

In fact if I didn't eat it, my health might be worse because I consume little or no milk (I loathe it) and never touch yoghourt (I loathe that even more than milk) so cheese is my main source of dietary calcium.

thatbags Sun 05-Feb-17 22:16:45

ellent, nice connection smile

Cunco Sun 05-Feb-17 22:27:04

I understand that fatness is usually caused by eating more calories that we use. Hard cheese has more calories than soft cheese but either one could be included in a diet as long as we keep the overall calorie intake in balance. I'm not aware that cheese is addictive but if chocolate is, I suppose cheese could be.

Sadly, as we mature, the number of calories we need declines while the attraction of mature cheese increases. What makes it worse for some is that mature women need even less calories than equally active mature me. Life just ain't fair, is it?

Cunco Sun 05-Feb-17 22:28:45

Me? I meant men. Oh! for an edit button.

annodomini Sun 05-Feb-17 22:35:54

Oven bottoms are, as far as I know, like very large English muffins.

Neversaydie Sun 05-Feb-17 22:50:36

I adore cheese and I think he is right and it is addictive.If I eat a small piece I 'have'to have another and another (other food does not affect me like this not even chocolate)
Having been diagnosed with raised cholesterol last April (and for other reasons)I decided to try and lose that excess weight which has crept on. I stopped buying cheese and ate it only rarely when out .I lost 20lbs in 9months (not entirely due to no cheese, admittedly ,but it was definitely a factor) I now cook with it occaisonally but freeze (immediately or I eat it) what isn't needed for the recipe.I am awaiting the results of blood tests for my cholesterol .