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Is obesity a class thing?

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RosieLeah Fri 14-Jul-17 06:45:28

We are told a lot about the dangers of obesity, and quite right too. (We are talking about the seriously overweight, not mere plumpness). I have noticed though, that it seems to be those lower down the social scale that have this problem. It is obviously not a question of money, as the people are clearly able to afford to buy plenty of food. It seems that it is all a question of pride in oneself. People who are obese choose to be so. Our weight is one of the few things we can control. I'm trying to be diplomatic here and not cause offence, but I think you can see what I'm implying. I know that depression can cause some people to over-eat, then being overweight causes more depression and you get into a cycle. I'm just wondering whether I'm correct in thinking that those who are obese and are careless about their appearance tend to be from the lower classes in our society.

Lillie Fri 14-Jul-17 15:24:12

Twas purely an observation paddyann, and we all notice different markers. Just like I notice Londoners walk faster than people in other cities - apparently it's all down to economic output.
Now, time to run for the tube, (that's 100 calories off!) grin

MissAdventure Fri 14-Jul-17 15:11:17

I very much doubt that London people are slimmer than elsewhere. I suppose, again, it would depend on the area.

paddyann Fri 14-Jul-17 14:51:03

Lillie that'll be the cups of coffee that cost a few pounds a time...the people I'm talking about cant AFFORD those coffees,the price of one would probably feed their family a complete meal from the freezer shop .Shame so many are so narrow in outlook .I'd guess if you went to some of the less well off areas of London you'll see just as many overweight folk as there are everywhere else

devongirl Fri 14-Jul-17 14:31:41

I think we're heading towards the US situation now, where overweight people look around and see other people as large as themselves so don't think they're overweight..

Lillie Fri 14-Jul-17 14:23:05

I'm from London and don't see so many at home.
That is exactly my observation too GM, Londoners are unlikely to be obese. They are always chasing up escalators and sipping their cups of coffee, (not munching food).

ninny Fri 14-Jul-17 14:16:48

No excuse for smoking at nearly £8 a pack now lots of help out there for free to help you stop and if you are obese and smoke you will become a burden to the NHS.

GrandmaMoira Fri 14-Jul-17 14:05:13

This is not class but age. Whilst many of us, including me, have put on weight as we have got older, I noticed on holiday with my DGC at a caravan site that the Grans were usually slimmish or a little plump but many of the Mums were obese. Every very large woman I saw was young. Are there more overweight people in some parts of the country than others? I'm from London and don't see so many at home.

HildaW Fri 14-Jul-17 13:57:30

All I know is that if a tv programme shows topical film footage from the 70s or earlier everyone looks very slender!

Oh and another comment - when I was a rather sturdy teenager - a good size 16, though in inches it would be a size 14 now.......I had a hell of a job to find jeans to fit. Nowadays high street fashion can be found in very generous sizes - has this lead to a more general acceptance of bigger people? A sort of chicken/egg thing? No idea.

MissAdventure Fri 14-Jul-17 13:51:17

Very true, paddy, I think.

Lillie Fri 14-Jul-17 13:51:13

I struggle to find the answer to this question because surely obesity comes in all sizes -classes- of society? My DH went to a posh boarding school with lots of healthy food, but he turned out fat because he always used to eat up all the second and third helpings! Now it's the best wines, (around £20 a bottle), plus aperitifs, so income is not the link here. If anything it's portion sizes and an actual enjoyment of tastes, if that's possible.

I do object to the EU fat ruling which classes obese people as "disabled", but I do have to agree it's unusual to see fat French people and UK citizens are fatter than even the Germans.

Anniebach Fri 14-Jul-17 13:33:34

Good post Paddy

paddyann Fri 14-Jul-17 13:27:39

obesity and income are the link,I live in an area of high deprivation ,where factories have closed and any jobs available tend to be minimum wage .I see people walking home for the freezer shops on a Monday with 4 or 5 bags of cheap food to last them the week.High fat ,lots of carbs what a lot of us would consider junk food ...but they are doing their best to keep a roof over their families heads and food ,however poor the quality,on the table.IF you've ever struggled then you'll have sympathy and admiration for the millions who have no choice but to live like this.We struggled when we started out in our business and lived on toasted cheese for over 2 years at one stage ,but there wasn't the variety of cheap food around so perhaps we were lucky...and we were always active which helps too.But being active when life is tough isn't easy either so I would never look down at people who do their best for their families whatever weight they are or if they smoke etc.Just be glad you dont have to walk in their shoes

ninny Fri 14-Jul-17 13:23:45

Nannylovesshopping how true, I see it all the time when I am out and about.

ninny Fri 14-Jul-17 13:11:22

I don't think Rosie is trying to wind anyone up although if you are fat she probably is winding you up unintentionally.

Anniebach Fri 14-Jul-17 12:17:33

a bag of chips is more comforting than a couple of sticks of celery . If depressed which to choose - a packet of biscuits or pop off to the shops for fruit, blend and drink

Anniebach Fri 14-Jul-17 12:10:08

I like that Terri grin. And so true X

BlueBelle Fri 14-Jul-17 11:42:51

I rather think Rosie is having a few wind up threads for a newbie

MissAdventure Fri 14-Jul-17 11:37:54

I suppose there is the cost of good food to take into consideration? I know the argument about preparing reasonable, healthy food from scratch, but a bag of frozen chips and a pizza is much more convenient and cheaper, I'm guessing?

TriciaF Fri 14-Jul-17 11:30:08

I believe that to stay slim we need to spend a lot of time planning meals, shopping for them and cooking them. It's a lot of work, and time consuming. Whether being willing and able to do this is class related I don't know.
But on top of that I think genetics comes into it Both my parents were skinny, and going back too.

Primrose65 Fri 14-Jul-17 11:27:29

www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jan/23/fact-checking-obesity-poverty-link

Ilovecheese Fri 14-Jul-17 11:10:34

Jane10 Great post!

Jane10 Fri 14-Jul-17 11:05:47

Oh dear now I'm confused. As you all know I'm extremely posh. How on earth is it that I'm such a chubster? I'll need to tell cook and the kitchen staff to stop shopping at those special stores that only stock lower class food.
Must waddle off to watch the polo. grin

FarNorth Fri 14-Jul-17 10:33:26

I am not keen on cooking but also don't want to eat rubbishy ready meals.
I often use a bag of ready-prepared veg which I bung in the microwave for a few mins, as directed on the bag, meanwhile whipping up some instant mash to go with it.
Tasty and healthy(ish)!

Nannylovesshopping Fri 14-Jul-17 10:17:06

The mothers who walk past my house to go to school who are holding their children's hands and chatting quietly are generally slim, if I were being judgemental, I would refer to as "classy" the others, whose children are allowed to run, scream, are being told to f...... come back here you little s... are generally very large and showing vast amounts of flesh, not a good look, I would say are "not classy" it depends on how class is viewed, if indeed at all

annodomini Fri 14-Jul-17 10:15:18

Two years ago my rheumatologist informed me that I was obese, so I must have been of a lower class. Now I am not obese, may I please rejoin the middle class?