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SueDonim Fri 15-Dec-17 13:18:18

My dd is a student doctor. She hopes one day to combine her career with having a family, maybe working part-time for some of that. That's the way the world of work is going and we have to change our expectations, really.

The 'family doctors' of old are gone for many, especially as doctors now have so much bureaucracy and admin to deal with.

I don't agree that doctors should be forced to work for the NHS for a certain period. No one else in the UK has to do that, plus doctors are more likely than many graduates to eventually repay their student loans and pay more tax.

I do think more use should be made of other health professionals such as pharmacists and specialist nurses. For instance, my Dh needs his ears syringed. To get that done, he has to see a doctor, who will tell him to make an appointment with a nurse, all of which will takes weeks. Instead, he's going to a private clinic on Tuesday, which will do the job for about £40. I suppose that's a win for the NHS, really, hmm but not everyone has the money to solve that particular problem.

Anniebach Fri 15-Dec-17 11:30:48

I don't find part time doctors better than full time, have blood tests , check results and either a weeks wait for your GP ,or two weeks if she is booked up, other choice is another doctor who will phone you, give results but tell you to see them to discuss it further , this means going over the same problems again.

Ilovecheese Fri 15-Dec-17 11:20:20

Well we already fund it ourselves by paying our taxes. We could all pay a bit more that way, instead of paying a lot more for insurance companies to make a profit.

It could well be a good thing to have more part timers, four part time doctors instead of two full time doctors will mean a greater range of opinion and experience.

Part time doctors will surely be fresher and and sharper than a worn out full timer. Plus, part time workers often put in more than their contracted hours, so we gain that way.

If doctors can spend more time with their children, surely that's a good thing.

I agree that those who have been trained by the NHS should spend at least as long as their training time working for the NHS, perhaps they could choose five years full time or ten years part time, or a mixture of the two.

starbird Fri 15-Dec-17 11:19:13

A part time GP's wage is equal to a full minor management wage. (eg shop manager) I don't begrudge them that, except that nowadays some GP's only want to write a prescription to cover the symptoms rather then try to heal the problem. A robot could do that.

Anniebach Fri 15-Dec-17 11:07:51

My surgery has nine G.P's. Four are female, my GP ,female , worked two days a week, two other female job share. Some of the male GP's are part time because they choose to work part of the week at the hospital twenty miles away and I know two only work part time.

starbird Fri 15-Dec-17 11:00:13

I read in today's Telegraph that "the NHS needs to adapt to take account of the rising number of health professionals who choose to work part-time as they see flexible working and career breaks “as a right”.
Prof Ian Cumming, chief executive of Health Education England, said the attitudes of so-called millennials – those born in the Eighties and early Nineties – were different to previous generations, with a much greater focus on “work-life balance”.
200,000 is the number of extra NHS staff needed to cope with pressures as demand for part-time roles rises
And he said the increasing number of women entering traditionally male-dominated health professions such as medicine meant the NHS needed to train far more staff, to cover the numbers working part-time."

Until now the NHS has claimed that it did not cost any more to train women, many of whom will eventually become part time at least for several years. I agree that it is good that people find a better balance between work and home, but at the same time, being a doctor has traditionally called for a sense of vocation. And being a GP is no more stressful than many senior white collar jobs where part time is not an option. I don't know what the answer is, perhaps we will all be expected to self diagnose using the internet but that is far from foolproof. And how many of these part time NHS doctors are also working privately? Not that they shouldn't but I suggest that all doctors trained in the the UK should have to committ to 5-10 years of full time NHS work. Likewise I think it immoral to take doctors from poor countries to fill our vacancies. In the near future I think healthcare will go the way of pensions - we will have to fund it ourselves.