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I need to let go so I can sleep

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Loobs Fri 09-Feb-18 09:29:55

How do I get rid of misplaced anger? I am annoyed on my husbands behalf - his mother recently died after suffering lung cancer and even though she was in her 80's and knew she was terminal she didn't make a will. There is only my husband and his sister, their father died several years ago, and no property, just a council flat which will be handed back. We have discovered there is an amount of money (£11,000 in an ISA plus £10,000 in a bank account) but his sister has the bank card and is slowly emptying the account. We only found out about the ISA by accident, she hadn't mentioned it (my husband and his sister have never really got on). I am losing sleep over this as I am angry with his late mother for not having the sense to sort this in the months she knew about it, his sister for taking the money and him for not really doing anything about it. This is not my problem - the money would really help but isn't enough to be 'life-changing - but it's the unfairness I cannot stand. I would happily use a solicitor and spend my husbands half just to stop her getting it all - when did I become this horrid person??? So, any suggestions on how I 'let go'? I got 4 hours sleep last night and need my sleep.

gigi1958 Tue 20-Feb-18 13:01:45

Anger, bitterness, ruminating give it any name you want it all has the same outcome. So the big question is how do you get past it? I think perhaps you already are you posted this it means you are talking about it and that helps get you past it.

This sounds too simple but before bed and when you wake up try thinking of at least 3 of your blessings whatever they may be. It helps remind us that despite ugly things happening we have so much more to be happy about.

Loobs Sun 18-Feb-18 14:01:24

Well, lots of advice, thank you all so much. In the end I managed to persuade my husband to phone the bank (who had been informed) and the ISA firm (who hadn't) and now we will just have to wait and see - funeral in a couple of days so will see S-i-L then and maybe get an idea of which way this is heading. I have told him it isn't fair to confront this at the funeral/wake or even on that day as she was close to her mum (he really wasn't) and it would be
unfair. I do heartily concur with the sentiment that holding on to anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to suffer - brilliant. I am learning to meditate (every cloud!!) and managing to 'let go' whenever I start to feel annoyed - hopefully this will be resolved easily.

MargaretX Mon 12-Feb-18 18:13:04

loobs I think your Mil knew what her daughter was like and hadn't got the strength to say anything about it and have to face any rows or bad temper in her last days.

I had 2 aunts who systematically kept my mother out of all the deals they made to get their hands on all the parents' money.
Jewellery goes to the daughters at least the first choice.

Granarchist Mon 12-Feb-18 18:00:59

Once the bank is told someone is dead the account will be frozen. My sister and I were the only executors and only beneficiaries. I was advised by a friendly solicitor to take out loads of cash before telling the bank of her death as I would have expenses I could not otherwise fund. It was very good advice. I made a record of every penny spent. I also got probate in record time without paying a solicitor. My sister and I get on brilliantly and as she was abroad at the time of our mother's death she left it to me to handle it.

MamaCaz Mon 12-Feb-18 12:45:02

And presumably, if a crime is suspected, the bank will then persue it as a matter of course.

MamaCaz Mon 12-Feb-18 12:41:18

I couldn't sleep at night either, knowing that.

If husband didn't do it, I would inform the bank myself, as the account should definitely have been frozen, even if this woman was legally the sole beneficiary!

Christinefrance Mon 12-Feb-18 08:09:32

I agree with OldMeg you have to decide how far you want to take this. If what your sister in law is doing is indeed illegal then do you want to bring that to light with all that entails.
Can you be the bigger person and let it go. It's very hurtful when families behave this way to each other I know.

OldMeg Mon 12-Feb-18 07:41:00

In law, if there’s no will, the money belongs to surviving children shared equally. Your sister in law is breaking the law.

If you know the name of the main bank then your husband must phone them. Ask to be out through to the bereavement section and tell them your MiL died on ...and name the date. The account will then be frozen and only certain expenses eg funeral related, be allowed.

Tell your SiL you will start legal proceedings if she withdraws any more money.

Either that or just let it go and let her have the money.

gillybob Mon 12-Feb-18 07:29:00

I totally sympathise with you and others Loobs we were left in a very similar situation when DH’s parents died. There was a small property (very run down so not worth a huge amount) plus a valuable collection (I best not say what it was) that was suddenly gone. DH’s wealthy brother and witch of a sister took the lot. He was fed a story that his mother had borrowed money, so the property was signed over.... (pure lies as we know there was no way she would borrow anything from anyone and lived very frugally) DH was handed his mother’s wedding ring by the priest after the funeral. We returned home with it and DH posted it to his sister with a note saying “you’ve got everything now...”

There is no way my DH would fight over anything. It did eat away at him for a while but not long. He just took the attitude that he hoped the pair of them enjoyed their ill gotten gains and will never speak to either of them again.

As others have said. Very sad when siblings cheat each other like this.

loopyloo Mon 12-Feb-18 07:12:09

I do think you should ring the bank and also see a solicitor. If she has been taking the money after the mother's death that is fraud. Have the pensions people been informed? etc etc.

Marydoll Mon 12-Feb-18 07:09:48

The same thing happened to my DH. His signature was on MIL's bank account and when he and his brother went to sort out his mothers affDH's signature off the account and add hers, without telling him. SIL then changed the locks on the doors when MIL was in hospital and emptied the house of everything , as MIL never came home from hospital.
My husband and brother are now estranged from their siblings. We weren't looking for any money or goods, it was the fact his mother had betrayed him like that. DH (the eldest of eight) and his brother didn't get as much as a family photograph. MIL wasn't really capable of making decisions like that. It is a horrible situation.

travelsafar Mon 12-Feb-18 06:41:01

Anyone reading these stories should take note and draw up a will. I couldn't think of anything worse than my family falling out after I had gone, all because i couldnt be bothered to put my ffairs in order!!! We experienced the heartache when my MIL diedand my DH hads never recovered from what his brother and sister did to him. It has left a very bitter taste in his mouthh and led to his complete estrangement from his siblings. His poor mum would turn in her grave if she knew what happened.

cornergran Fri 09-Feb-18 20:39:48

I’m sorry for your loss Loons: a difficult time made harder. We had a different but similar enough experience. All I can advise is for your husband to get advice, for you both to understand what should and shouldn’t happen then come to a joint decision about arguing or not. At some point you will need to put this behind you or it will eat away, please don’t let it upset you any more than it must.

M0nica Fri 09-Feb-18 19:11:54

Loobs go and talk to the CAB or a solicitor. from the amount left, it seems likely that they legally needed to get probate, so their actions could be criminal.

Loobs Fri 09-Feb-18 14:02:24

Luckygirl you are so right, I do need to let it go and that's the point - it isn't doing me any good. Nonnie she has said that the money is hers as she was putting (hiding) some in the account which may be true but my DH shouldn't have to just take her word for it? That's what bank statements are for but she won't let us have them - this is where the problem comes in, to carry on or just roll over and give in?Fennel I may well try your suggestion, I looked on Amazon and, like you I am very sceptical about homeopathy but.....

tanith Fri 09-Feb-18 13:55:47

Loobs you can phone the bank to have the account frozen my daughters had to do this when their Nan died recently ,the bank did as asked without any proof of death.

Luckygirl Fri 09-Feb-18 13:50:46

It is indeed a common problem - we had the same with a sis-i-l who had screwed money (a lot!) under false pretenses out of a parent before he died; then got to the funeral early and made off with the belongings that they wanted before anyone else could get a look in.

We were left holding the baby so to speak when she ratted out on her Dad and what had been agreed in return for the money. He finished up homeless - guess where he finished up? - yup, with us! OH is more sanguine about it than I am - probably because I was the one who finished up sorting out the mess that was left! She has plenty dosh now and has properties that she lets!

I try to smile when we meet - more of a grin!

But you have to let it go - harbouring a grudge is very stressful.

Nonnie Fri 09-Feb-18 12:39:36

loobs if you don't have the details how can you be sure she is taking the money? Could it all be a misunderstanding?

I am sure your DH could phone the bank and tell them, I did when DS died and they froze it straight away.

Perhaps you shouldn't feel you need to 'control' anything, isn't that up to your DH?

Loobs Fri 09-Feb-18 12:20:31

It is not a joint account but we don't have the info to deal with bank, there could be several accounts I guess. Not sure we could just phone and say freeze the account/s as we haven't got the death certificate etc. Maybe that's part of the annoyance I feel, the complete lack of control over anything to do with this. Heyho, funeral in 2 weeks will be interesting.

silverlining48 Fri 09-Feb-18 11:42:23

Yes I think so too mollie, unless it’s a joint account, when the other named on the account can still use it.

mollie Fri 09-Feb-18 11:24:42

I thought bank accounts were frozen on death of the account holder. Does the bank know?

Fennel Fri 09-Feb-18 11:12:42

I can't help on your legal problems, Loobs, but for helping to sleep - my doctor suggested a homeopathic remedy, coffea cruda, which has helped me a bit (we're having a difficult time with a house move.)
You can get it online, various strengths.
I'm sceptical about homeopathy, but it does seem to soothe
my overactive mind at night.

OurKid1 Fri 09-Feb-18 11:08:12

What is your husband's view on his sister's behaviour? I think, in your situation, my anger would be directed at her, rather than your MIL who may have just thought her money would be divided equally between her offspring - lots of older people seem to think that's the case and therefore don't bother with a will.

Grannyknot Fri 09-Feb-18 11:03:17

I meant a daughter-in-law can also be a "daughter" in spirit, not only legally.

On the last occasion I saw my MIL before she succumbed completely to Alzheimer's (she was a Scot, not demonstrative at all) she held me tightly and with tears in her eyes said "Thank you for being my best daughter-in-law" and I thought smile "But I'm the only one!" grin

Memories are the best keepsake ...

Grannyknot Fri 09-Feb-18 11:00:23

Hilda that's a very good point, and from MawBroon's comment about the old-fashioned way of giving jewellery to (blood) daughters only, that what comes to the daughter "in-law" (but sometimes also in spirit) will eventually go to the grandchildren (bloodline).

It's a minefield.