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Pain relief for osteoarthritis in knees

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Teacheranne Tue 20-Mar-18 11:53:46

Does anyone have suggestions for effective pain relief for arthritic knees please?

I have been on various painkillers (paracetamol, naproxen, codeine, tramodol, injections, physio, acupuncture, reflexology and now amitriptylin) but nothing seems to help. I find it very difficult to walk even short distances so food shopping is a nightmare, i struggle even to shop at a small supermarket attached to a petrol station! I am unable to exercise which I need to do to lose weight as I know that will help. I was told three years ago that X-rays of my knees indicate that both are bad enough for knee replacement surgery but at 58 I was too young!

I am going to my doctor tomorrow to ask her for different pain relief which I think will mean going to opiate varieties which I am reluctant to use but I guess for a short time will be worth it to be pain free.

Khan Mon 08-Apr-19 13:31:00

Hello. Can anyone tell me what a back knee support is?.l do not live in the U .K.,so l am not familliar with it.
As l have very bad pain in my knee,l would be very happy to try anything that will help me with the pain.

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jura2 Fri 30-Mar-18 15:09:30

Thanks yes - it is snowing like crazy now- so not out of the woods yet, or rather, into the woods. Can't wait to go swimming in about 10 days time.

Jane10 Fri 30-Mar-18 12:37:34

Gawd! Three knees. Couldn't cope with that.
You seem to be making a very good recovery though. You'll really be able to look forward to the summer.

jura2 Fri 30-Mar-18 12:35:25

I believe in reverse superstition ;) lol

jura2 Fri 30-Mar-18 12:34:25

Good on you- and mya the force be with you.

The younger and fitter you are, the more able you will be to fight for recovery and enjoy your new knees- after the initial months. With you all the way.

But by gum am I glad I have not got 3 knees, for sure. xxx

Jane10 Fri 30-Mar-18 12:08:49

Have bitten the bullet and made an appointment...
Friday 13th. Hope that's not ominous.

jura2 Fri 30-Mar-18 10:03:47

So so sorry to hear that Jane and anno - bonne chance.

paddyann Fri 30-Mar-18 09:13:28

Google it and see reviews

paddyann Fri 30-Mar-18 09:12:58

Teacheranne have you tried Actipatch ? Its available from chemists and online.My D used it for Fibromyalgia and my cousin for a foot issue and both had good results .Although in my D's case only for a few months .Worth a try? Its worn 24/7 and lasts a month ,around £20 but you can get a trial size that lasts 7 days online and is about £5.

Jane10 Fri 30-Mar-18 06:49:51

I'm up early today as the pain in my knee was so bad that I had to get up and plaster on the Voltarol gel.
I've been putting off the evil hour so long but I think I'll need to make an appointment and kick off the whole process again. sad

annodomini Thu 29-Mar-18 23:21:17

My knees have deteriorated very fast. The first hint I had was ten months ago, but now walking is really trying - even a trudge round M&S is getting to be too much. I'm under a rheumatologist for an auto-immune condition which I suspect is responsible for the arthritis. She thinks I will need replacements but I haven't yet seen an orthopod. I will ask to be referred to the one who did my hip, 13 years ago - unless he's retired in the meantime. I can't take any opiates without feeling (and sometimes being) very sick, and NSAIDs are also disallowed, so am stuck with paracetamol. I find that Voltarol 12 hour gel takes the edge off the pain and gives me relief over night. I wish I could get rid of this pain. It spoiled the last part of an opera recently because I couldn't stretch my leg out and I was almost screaming for Madame Butterfly to hurry up and die! In future I will be booking aisle seats.

Cold Thu 29-Mar-18 21:42:43

Do you have access to a warm water or hydrotherapy pool?

I have Ehlers Danlos syndrome, fibromyalgia and following an accident destroyed one knee that had to be replaced when I was 50. However the warm water exercises are the only thing that kept me mobile.

I go to a special session for people with disabilities and health issues. It is not a group thing - everyone has their own exercise prescription from a dr or physio and we all do our own thing. Some have back issues, others are waiting for joint replacement, one elderly lady has had a stroke, The age range is huge, around 18-88 and the physical range is also huge but no-one cares as they just do their own programme.

I have a physio knee programme and started on 10-15 minutes - last Monday I did 1 hour 45mins.

annsixty Thu 29-Mar-18 21:27:59

Only just back to this, good news for all of you who do find painkillers, creams ,exercise good but frankly when you are bone on bone, nothing but a replacement works. There is nothing left to treat.
I can truly say it was agonising. Although my op produced good results I am sure it would have been better if I had had the op before it got as bad.
I would have been in a wheelchair in a few weeks it was so bad.

tessagee Thu 29-Mar-18 21:06:56

Someone here mentioned Flexiseq and I've been using it now for a week with great results. Unfortunately at a cost of £18.99 for about 8 days supply it is not possible to keep buying it. If I win the lottery I'll buy a year's supply.

jura2 Thu 29-Mar-18 12:29:01

3 weeks + 2days - reached the ultimate goal of 120 degree bend. Pheew.

Still on paracetamol + 1 Naproxen a day though- time to start cutting back.

jura2 Fri 23-Mar-18 11:28:19

It does sound harsh- to say 'must exercise more' - and yet, research has shown that it is the key to pain relief in many cases, including back pain.

So as Bluebell says, find a pool where you can do aquafit once then twice a week- and start swimming. Perhaps go to one which is not your local one (this is what I do) - if you are very self conscious. You can also put some thin 3/4 leggings (Decathlon do some very thin ones) to wear with swimsuit.
Bonne chance- exercising does relieve pain, and get the adrenalin going to help with depression and helplesness. Hugs- and bonne chance.

115 Degree bend today, no more crutches or sticks and can go up the stairs totally un-aided- not even bannister. I am absolutely sure I could not have achieved this in 2 weeks without the regular and active use of the kinetec.

Bluebell123 Thu 22-Mar-18 18:38:44

I go to an aquafit class and find it reduces pain and helps keeps the joints supple. I put my swimsuit on at home under my clothes. Several obese ladies attend. Could you bite the bullet and give it a try?

Fennel Thu 22-Mar-18 11:32:42

cornergran - this is the product which was used for husband's knee:
www.fillerworld.com/orthopedics/ostenil-mini-1x10mg1ml
Only he had a larger amount, supposed to last for 6 months.
The injection probably has to be done by a specialist ( his was done by a rheumatologist.) And an xray first to locate the exact spot for the injection.He had had various other treatments before that.
TG his knee is still holding up, since 2-3 months.

Teacheranne Thu 22-Mar-18 11:11:50

Dontaskme, that's exactly what I was told, do more exercise! How, when it hurts to even walk? I know swimming or aquarobics would help but I am not comfortable in exposing my obese body to other people! You sound a lot worse than me yet are also not being offered surgery, that seems unfair as I know loads of people who have had new knees or hips without having to fight for them.

But, on a positive note, I took three lots of tramodol yesterday and also 40 mg I'd amitriptylin ( apparently you need to reduce amitriptylin doses slowly) and the pain in my knees seemed to reduce! I have researched on Arthritis UK website and it looks as if you can take both these medicines together so I will mention this to my GP when I see her in two weeks - provided that the improvement is sustained!

I have taken tramodol before and had no problems re addiction, I often forgot to take a dose and never took the full daily amount so was not needing a higher dose or clock watching for the next "fix". Also when I changed to amitriptylin, I just stopped taking the tramodol immediately and had no withdrawal symptoms. I do not really like taking such strong painkillers but needs must - I live on my own so have to shop, drive, clean etc for myself.

I'll keep you informed if the improvement is sustained as it might just be a placebo effect as I am desperate!

Dontaskme Thu 22-Mar-18 09:43:13

OldMeg I thought exactly the same WTF. I re-read everything as sometimes the written word doesn't come across the same as if spoken, and still no idea!

OP I have no clues for pain relief I'm sorry to say. I have OA all over, including my sternum which is a swine but all the GP says is "we cant replace every joint in your body" yet doesn't suggest replacing even one!! I asked "So what will you do instead then"? Referred me to a gym which is hilarious as most days I literally can't move so for a start couldn't even get there even if I wanted to!

jura2 Thu 22-Mar-18 09:24:00

I also take curcumin and curcuma - in capsule form- 1 curcumin and 3 curcuma daily. Started doing so after going to a lecture about plant pharmacology last year, by a Professor from Lausanne, Geneva and several Chinese Unis.

One great advantage is that the anti-imflammatory effect also acts on the brain- and it seems to be the bes prophylactic stuff to take to ward dementia and Alzheimers- and no side-effects.

BTW Tramal/Tramadol is an opiate and closely related to morphine- and in some people, can be very addictive.

Fennel Wed 21-Mar-18 20:49:07

It was done in France - partially reimbursed by our health insurance, but still quite expensive.
But worth it.

cornergran Wed 21-Mar-18 20:05:50

fennel can I ask if the hyaluronan injections were via the NHS? I was told recently these are only available privately. Wondering if it is just this area or nationwide.

Baggs Wed 21-Mar-18 19:28:03

Good luck, teacheranne!