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Are you managing your microbiome?

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lizzypopbottle Wed 28-Mar-18 14:56:43

Some recent food fads are rather extreme and cutting out whole food groups can be dangerous but it seems our gut flora are going to save us from every possible ill, are the seat of the immune system and are likened to a second brain, so are you looking after yours? You need to feed your personal gut garden on lots of fibre (prebiotics) and fermented foods (probiotics). I'm a convert and have embraced the fermentation craze. I make my own yoghurt and sauerkraut and it's really easy and fun and the result is delicious. Shop bought sauerkraut is usually pasteurised so the friendly lactobacilli are dead. How's your microbiome doing?

Jalima1108 Thu 29-Mar-18 19:50:16

Nanny27:
Fermentation. Even a very complex wine is only alcoholic grape juice. The alcohol is produced by a process called fermentation. A ripe organic grape is full of natural sugars and there are wild yeasts living on its skin.

seacliff Thu 29-Mar-18 19:21:28

Thanks Dee - I'd like the kimchi recipe please. I see some include fish sauce, but can that be left out?

That does appeal to me. Do you keep it in the fridge?

lizzypopbottle Thu 29-Mar-18 19:16:23

I had a great compliment from my London-based son this morning. He and his girlfriend went out for Korean food and had kimchi there. He reckons my homemade kimchi is nicer! I got him started on milk kefir too and now he's also making it with water kefir grains. I have a ginger beer recipe I'm going to try out next. Apparently it really packs a punch!

DeeWBW Thu 29-Mar-18 18:57:32

I'm on the same trip as you. Try making kimchi - it tastes incredible! Unfortunately, while I'm in Spain, I can't get the ingredients but have made something similar, though not as addictive.

If you want a recipe, let me know,.

seacliff Thu 29-Mar-18 18:45:39

I'm interested in this but know little about it. I looked at a bottle of kefir the other day, but didn't buy it. Not sure if I'd like it? The bone broth would be a no and the saukraut doesn't appeal.

I'm vegetarian and eat lots of fibre and pulses/lentils and dairy. I have been on a SW diet and ate no bread for 6 weeks - when I did have some I had a reaction to it.

patriciageegee Thu 29-Mar-18 18:23:26

I will try again Hannah as it's clearly a good thing but maybe take it a bit easier this time ? !

HannahLoisLuke Thu 29-Mar-18 16:23:07

That made me laugh Patricia. I too make kefir using live grains bought online. Very easy to do, and the grains multiply so you can give some away, or like Patricia put to sleep in the freezer!
I suffer with IBS and silent reflux and wanted a natural remedy so read The Clever Guts Diet too. Tried making sauerkraut but all that slicing and massaging with salt was too much effort. The kefir is fine and so is making live yogurt. Happy to read that blue cheese is a fermented food too but some of the recipes look very unappetising, though others get love them.
I'm afraid that I also still eat the wrong stuff, mainly sweet stuff so my ailments still have the upper hand.

sundancecowboy Thu 29-Mar-18 14:57:35

It is correct that you can at first get some slight stomach cramp but usually only until your gut adjusts - there are often people on facebook who pass on some of their grains as they can grow fast at times so you can often get some for free. It takes a bit of practice to learn what works with them but they are pretty resilient. There is lots of info on the link I posted above - join in the kefir craze - though if you prefer you can also buy it in Lidl - but homemade is nicer and over time you can tailor it to how you like it best. It's also excellent for bone fracture healing and repair. smile

janeainsworth Thu 29-Mar-18 14:49:50

Sugar butties hellsgrandad!! A blast from the past.
My friend Kath's Mum used to make them. I pretended to enjoy them, but really I didn't like the gritty texture on my teeth.
In fact my teeth are on edge now just thinking about themgrin

PamelaJ1 Thu 29-Mar-18 14:42:13

Been doing it for years. I started after being recommended a book by Dr. John Mansfield, a specialist in arthritis and allergies. A man way before his time.
Michael Mosley then investigated gut health and then I read another brilliant book by Tim Spaector called The Diet Myth. It really explains the links between the gut and the brain.
Not a fancy diet nipsmum, more just a healthy way of eating.

patriciageegee Thu 29-Mar-18 14:39:17

Think I've overdone the kefir culturing! Bought some grains online and busily got going but, typical bull-at-gate style, upped the kefir consumption daily and after a couple of weeks thought my gut biome was about to erupt out of my ears with v.painful cramps to boot! The grains are now gently dozing in the freezer...

Hellsgrandad Thu 29-Mar-18 14:24:46

I find that my gut thrives very well on sugar butties and fish and chips.
It never complains and at 82 I can still run up stairs two at a time.
Surely food is meant for enjoyment as well as sustenance.

Hm999 Thu 29-Mar-18 14:20:21

I like the idea of making my own kefir. Interesting thread. Thanks.

DanniRae Thu 29-Mar-18 13:53:51

How do you make kefir sdcb? I would like to have a go.

sundancecowboy Thu 29-Mar-18 13:53:27

www.yemoos.com/pages/milk-kefir-overview

lemongrove Thu 29-Mar-18 13:44:53

What’s kefir? ( sounds like a nomadic tribe.)

Anniebach Thu 29-Mar-18 13:31:11

I didn't know I had one/them

sundancecowboy Thu 29-Mar-18 13:22:11

I make my own kefir - they're my babies and we look after each other nicely.

123kitty Thu 29-Mar-18 10:55:55

Thanks nanny27- I'm with you

goldengirl Thu 29-Mar-18 10:54:32

I have IBS but since I've eaten more fresh fruit & veg and have reduced ready meals, take aways and prepared cooked meats I've been a lot better - though I do get the odd flare up still but not half as often. I also keep to a 'toilet' routine and altogether I feel so much better gutwise. I don't eat or drink any specially developed 'good for the gut' food / drink. Best of all I managed to lose weight too!!!

Sheilasue Thu 29-Mar-18 10:53:26

Eating sensibly and smaller meals is fine for me I like my food.

Kim19 Thu 29-Mar-18 10:47:06

Reduced intake of everything is working very well for me.

Blinko Thu 29-Mar-18 10:46:13

Thanks, NotaGran, I've just bought Michael Moseley's Clever guts, plus a related recipe book. Hope it works for me like it has for you. Well done smile

nipsmum Thu 29-Mar-18 10:44:15

I survive very well on a good varied mixed diet. I cut down sugar and carbohydrates as I have type 2 daibetes. No fancy diets for me thanks.

Matelda Thu 29-Mar-18 10:15:23

I agree with every word you say, NotAGran55.