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Replacing sugar in food and drink with sweeteners.

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gillyknits Sun 03-Jun-18 13:39:21

This may have been discussed before but I couldn’t find a thread.
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that when the manufacturers reduce sugar in anything they immediately add artificial sweeteners. This seems to make the product even sweeter than before. Surely, in my opinion, it would be better to reduce the sweetness of things. This might help to stop the craving for ‘sweet everything’
I can’t stand any sweeteners and have totally gone off most soft drinks. They don’t quench my thirst and leave a funny taste in my mouth. Looks like I’ll have to stick to water (or beer!), in the future.

Barmeyoldbat Sat 23-Jun-18 15:03:06

Totally agree Gillybobs, I was looking for a bottle of lemonade today to go with my beer but everything seemed to have added aspartame in it which gives me stomach cramps

Kisathecat Sat 23-Jun-18 14:55:40

Do you really think the men in suits sit around discussing the best way to get people to buy less of their product? For health reasons??? I wish!

mimiro Sat 23-Jun-18 14:43:03

another vote for stevia/not expensive over here.
artificial sweetners can cause all sorts of problems..
www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/top-number-most-dangerous-artificial-sweeteners.html

stevia can lower blood pressure so be aware if trying for first time.

GrandmaMoira Sat 23-Jun-18 14:35:29

I've never liked the aftertaste from artificial sweeteners. When I was young I drank gin and bitter lemon but hated it when given low calorie bitter lemon in error. I went off fizzy drinks years ago. Coke makes me feel ill generally. Carbonated drinks upset my stomach, even water. I don't like very sweet things either so the sugar tax only affects me if buying for the family.

Pebbles77 Sat 23-Jun-18 14:35:10

Sugar is a terrible poison really
Causes all sorts of havoc
Insomnia is a biggy .. if you have that look at sugar and caffeine
Hormone upsets ... acne ... stomach problems ... but most are addicted ...including me ... I get so angry with myself as I know that when I stop eating sugar I sleep so well

GoldenAge Sat 23-Jun-18 14:24:36

Agree - I have had low carb 'chocolate biscuits' from Atkins (2 mg carbs each) and these things taste so sweet that I've gone off them and all sugary sweets too. Why isn't there more publicity about aspartame I wonder - we all know it's dangerous but it keeps turning up in slimming products in huge proportions.

inishowen Sat 23-Jun-18 14:11:47

We recently noticed our usual tonic water had a sickly sweetness to it. It's spoiling the gin! I don't know if they've changed the recipe, but something has changed.

grannyticktock Sat 23-Jun-18 13:28:53

I don't like the taste of artificial sweeteners in soft drinks. In hot weather I do like a drop of squash or something in my water (often fizzy water), and used to look for the High Juice drinks, which didn't have sweeteners, but now almost all the regular squashes have replaced sugar with sweetners. So far, Roses Lime Juice is still sweetener-free, as are some of the more expensive cordials such as elderflower etc. A good quality cordial will still taste good even when it's very dilute, so I don't actually consume much sugar this way.

grandtanteJE65 Sat 23-Jun-18 13:27:56

The Italian firm San Pellegrino makes lemonade and two types of orangeade and none of them are over-sweetened, but I have never checked whether they contain sugar or artificial sweeteners, but judging by the taste it is sugar that is in them.

jocork Sat 23-Jun-18 12:39:41

I am diabetic so try to limit sugar and mostly drink plain tap water. However I struggle to swallow medication with plain water, so I have fruit juice at breakfast time diluted with tap water. I've got so used to drinking drinks diluted that I no longer enjoy them neat. Many people don't realise how much sugar is in fruit juices. I've seen teenagers in school drinking fruit juices straight from 1 litre cartons and they finish the whole carton in the day. And don't get me started on 'energy drinks' which they seem to think they need! I only realised recently that the sudden increase in cost of one of my favourite juices is the government's new sugar tax. The brand has different flavours of juice and while they were previously all the same price, they now vary as the fruit presumably has different sugar levels. It would seem that pear has less sugar than peach!

Doversole Sat 23-Jun-18 11:56:14

My OH also can't stand artificial sweeteners. His taste buds detect them all, even stevia leaves a liquorice-type taste apparently. We have been investigating the range of soft drinks still available without sweeteners. As well as Appletise and the Fever Tree and Fentimans ranges, Purdeys Rejuvenate is going down well (not cheap though).

maryhoffman37 Sat 23-Jun-18 10:30:09

I don't have at all a sweet tooth and never drink soft drinks - water, wine or beer for me! But I agree with the OP; sweeteners contain all sorts of bad and you are probably better off with a bit of sugar.

Brigidsdaughter Sat 23-Jun-18 10:29:19

Martha I don't drink alcohol either.if out I ask for a jug of water for the table. It avoids the choice of still or sparkling at ridiculous price / feeling cheap by asking for tap.

annodomini Sat 23-Jun-18 10:23:38

The 'health risks' of aspartame have been exaggerated - probably propagated by the sugar industry. The NHS website cites reliable examples of research which found aspartame did not increase the risk of leukaemia, lymphoma or brain cancer. It is unsafe only for those with phenylketonuria, a rare genetic disorder. Remember the heel-prick tests for newborn babies which detected that?
So there is absolutely no cause for panic. If you want to replace sugar, aspartame does you no harm and indeed is less harmful to health than sugar!

sarahellenwhitney Sat 23-Jun-18 10:22:01

MOnica Aspartame is a no go area for me as I too suffer the stomach cramps if I take anything that contains this. Liquid antibiotics that are prescribed for children contain aspartame to make it palatable so if any mums have experienced this with their young ones they will know why.

Alimarb Sat 23-Jun-18 10:21:47

I tend to look for drinks sweetened with sucralose. I don't like the taste of tap water and usually buy the sparkling flavoured water. Avoid anything with aspartame, it's evil stuff.

coast35 Sat 23-Jun-18 10:08:20

I think that more and more sugar has been added to food over the years. I recently made pancakes with my grandson using a 1970s Bero Book. I was astonished when we ate them to discover they didn’t taste at all like the supermarket pancakes. They tasted bland. Not nearly as much sugar. I can remember making the same pancakes from the same book when in the 70s and thinking they were lovely then. The manufacturers have a lot to answer for.

Kim19 Sat 23-Jun-18 10:03:36

I buy 2 litre water for 17p simply for the fizz. In my original attempts at weight loss, tried plain tap water which tasted fine but just didn't 'do it' for me. Accidentally had some of dining companion's fizz and, bingo. Never looked back and absolutely dissuaded me from my lifetime addiction to regular lucozade. I also use stevia and, although it is more expensive than cane sugar, I use so little that I feel financial comparisons may be somewhat odious. I speak as someone who has been fortunate to have had (is having) successful and prolonged weight loss. Only took me many years and a little common sense to savvy!!! I say this from a viewpoint of sheer relief and gratitude. There's no merit in having been an eating idiot for sixty years.

Greciangirl Sat 23-Jun-18 09:44:34

It’s all very well reducing the sugar in drinks, but my partner is a diabetic and regularly drinks Lucozade to bring his blood sugars up to normal. He has a very physical job and they can drop quite low.

However, since the reduction of sugar in the above drink he finds that one bottle alone doesn’t do it for him and has to drink two.

It’s just another ploy by the government to rake in more money.
And replacing with artificial sweeteners. Ugh!, horrid.

Purplepoppies Sat 23-Jun-18 09:36:41

The health risks of aspartame are horrendous. I am surprised they are not banned.
I would not buy or drink anything containing it.
I'm diabetic and would rather have water.

knickas63 Sat 23-Jun-18 09:31:43

I avoid 'sugar free' for just that reason! Would rather have less of the 'real' sugar product than yet more chemicals. Avoided aspartame in anything for the kids when they were young.

Skweek1 Sat 23-Jun-18 09:20:35

I hate artificial sweeteners - leave a horrible aftertaste. Yesterday bought Ricola Herbal Caramel, which are Sugar Free from chemist and didn't dislike - found that they are Stevia. but won't drink fizzy drinks unless I need to for diabetic control (type 1)

jenpax Fri 22-Jun-18 09:04:18

Eglantine21 I am no expert! But sugar from cane is highly processed and stevia although also from a plant (Stevia Rebaudiana ) comes from the leaf and is less sweet. It’s been approved as a sugar substitute for years in many countries: aspartame has been linked with possible carcinogenic properties I understand although as I say I am no expert ???‍♀️

TwiceAsNice Fri 22-Jun-18 08:45:50

I do drink sparkling water as well but have to drink diet drinks because am type 2 diabetic so can't drink the full sugar kind. It's boring drinking the same thing all the time so do like to have different options

Eglantine21 Fri 22-Jun-18 08:25:27

jenpax sugar is a sweetener made from a plant. How are other plant based sweetness different?

That sounds a bit aggressive, sorry. It is a genuine question ?