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OH has fractured femur - not a good situation

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Luckygirl Tue 26-Mar-19 10:35:34

As many of you will know, OH has had PD for many years and is very frail. He only weighs 6.5 stone. Sadly he fell yesterday and has a displaced fracture of his femur. He is not a good candidate for surgery - but there is no choice.

It is a worry that the ward do not have the air mattress that he needs and that he has at home - we had just got on top of the skin problem. He was on a trolley for 12 hours yesterday which will not have helped.

I am waiting to hear when the op will be.

JenniferEccles Thu 30-May-19 12:09:17

It's quite clear that the time has now come for you to grab with both hands any offer of a place at one of the homes you mentioned.

It's obvious that things can't go on like this isn't it?

Under normal circumstances with your knee pain ,YOU would be the one needing assistance around the house, let alone caring for someone who isn't always grateful or appreciative of what you are doing for him.

You now need to find your strength to stand up to any resistance from your DDs or husband, and insist that he moves into a home as soon as a room becomes available.

grannyqueenie Sun 26-May-19 23:48:00

Lucky you're in a no win situation whichever way you turn. Neither your girls nor any of us are walking in your shoes, or should that say hobbling on your crutches. Neither are we party to all that’s gone before in your family life, those things are rightfully private to you.
We may only be looking in from the outside but we are all so concerned for you and Jane has made a good point about the growing impact on your own health. I hope you're able to speak in a way that your girls will listen so they can all give their full support in finding a viable way forward. x

cornergran Sun 26-May-19 23:29:55

Sadly jane is right. I wish she wasn’t lucky, but it’s hard to see any other outcome if things carry on as they are. I wish, as you must, that a solution will appear. It’s oh so inadequate but I send my love and a sustaining hug.

Bellanonna Sun 26-May-19 22:28:22

Ditto!

jura2 Sun 26-May-19 18:21:04

Indeed. xxx

Bathsheba Sun 26-May-19 11:50:30

I think you've hit the nail on the head there Jane.

Jane10 Sun 26-May-19 11:42:59

I agree. Otherwise those DDs will have to be working out how to cope caring for both of their parents.

MawBroonsback Sun 26-May-19 11:01:06

If you are on crutches Luckygirl you must be at breaking point.
I don’t want to be bossy as I do sympathise (more than!) and your family business is your family business, BUT please get them together and put your side of things. They need to know the reality and at the very least, you need some respite. flowers

Luckygirl Sun 26-May-19 10:52:59

Thank you.

The biggest problem at the moment is that I am in dreadful pain with my knee and it kept me awake last night. It is slow going on crutches and every time OH asks me to get something for him it is a painful palaver. I think he forgets that. Wish I could!

Blinko Sun 26-May-19 08:51:10

I haven't read everything, Lucky but the last couple of pages has been enough to understand something of what you're going through.

Sending very best hugs, and hoping that you are able to take something from all this advice from Grans who've been through it.

But I would strongly advise showing DD2 (and maybe all ACs) this thread... Sock it to em!

Bathsheba Sun 26-May-19 08:37:07

I have (as yet...) to go through a crisis of care situation such as you are living through Lucky, so have no experience to draw on to offer you any advice. In any case, you have already had so much good advice and support from so many grans on here.

I do hope you find a solution soon, one that gives both you and your DH the relief and support that you both need, as clearly you cannot go on as you are.

((((hugs))))

Luckygirl Sat 25-May-19 19:54:17

Thank you all.

It is hard to try and get DD2 to get on board with this - her business is seasonal and this is the busy time - she is up to her eyes and pretty frantic and irrational some of the time. I cannot ask her to take over some are to see what the score is.

In any event she does not share our past history with all its ups and downs, which inevitably impinge on how I am feeling. It is very complex. And very tiring.

cornergran Sat 25-May-19 19:23:59

There’s a lot of sense here lucky, no benefit from me repeating it all. For me if you could somehow ask your determined daughter to take over for a week it might be a breakthrough. If that’s not possible then an external person spelling out the dangers of your current situation could trigger increased understanding. You both have health needs, both are equally important, both deserve to be met. Sending love to you both.

merlotgran Sat 25-May-19 19:04:20

Sending my best wishes, Luckygirl. I have also experienced the frustration of family members not singing from the same hymn sheet in a crisis situation. There is no easy answer but try not to allow yourself to be pulled in opposite directions.

MawBroonsback Sat 25-May-19 16:36:40

Without knowing too much,luckygirl I would say she is in a degree of denial- at how serious her father’s condition is and how hard it is for you. She may be speaking with (to her anyway) the best of motives, but she is in fact making it harder for you.
I too have one shall we say “dominant” DD, great at getting things done but expects her idea of action to be mine. We didn’t fall out over a couple of things but could quite easily have done. She is in fact a lot like me, but the other two, (especially DD2 ) are much more empathetic - but DD1 is the one who swings into action.
However hard, you need to sit them down and, as you say try to ensure you are all on the same page. They also need to be on board regarding DNR wishes. Write down all you feel and as far as possible try to keep your emotions out of it. Being chivvied along is in fact a form of (however well-intentioned) bullying.
She also needs to be clear that your DH does not always know exactly what he wants or indeed is possible.
Live in care is an expensive option and as you say, not necessary not even desirable 24/7. Is there somebody e.g.from the Palliative Care team who can outline the different options, pros and cons, based on their experience.
Palliative care need not mean “end of life”care and all the hospices I know of set a 2 week upper limit- and I am assuming things are not yet at that stage.
Finally, a lot of people talk of the “guilt” of arranging respite or residential care. It is not “putting someone in a care home” it is finding the best level of care for your DH.
Both of you need consideration and your children and their husbands do need to face facts.

kittylester Sat 25-May-19 15:55:12

It is difficult for you lucky, nothing DD1 and I talk about matters a great deal so I can ignore things but your problem is all enveloping.

Can you include the girls' husbands/partners in debates. Do they gave influence or would it muddy the waters?

You must be the priority or you are no good to your dh.

Please offload to us - you know we are supporting you as I'm sure your girls are but they have their own take on things.

(((Hugs)))

Luckygirl Sat 25-May-19 15:40:03

I do think the other DDs get it - they are not as emotional as DD2, who has just messaged me to ask if OH is really OK with relief fare as he was against it when she was talking to him the other day. I have tried to get across to her that we all need to sing from the same hymn sheet so he has clarity about what is needed, but she really doesn't see it. She comes over and is all lovey-dovey and Oh Poor Dad and just makes me feel awful. It is all with the best of intentions, as she is concerned for his welfare, but it is muddying the waters. I have never fallen pout in any way with my DDs but sometimes when she gets off the phone I just sit and weep.

The idea that we have to compromise here is just not something she gets.

It feels more of a problem than the original problem if you see what I mean. I do not want to fall out with her but having to fight my corner with a member of my own family is just a step too far and reduces me to tears

kittylester Sat 25-May-19 14:01:44

That's 'onside' not flipping inside!!

kittylester Sat 25-May-19 13:25:25

Lots of good posts here, lucky, and I'm sure we all echo ginny's point that you are an amazing woman.

I have a daughter who is quite decided and it's hard. Could you get the others inside?

Charleygirl5 Sat 25-May-19 13:23:13

Lucky I agree with Jane. Your daughter has to try it out for herself and as you said, even trying to relax in your own home is difficult if there is always somebody around either making themselves a cup of tea or watching TV.

If you are not careful you will be sharing a double room locally because you can no longer cope physically. Your daughter is forgetting that you are marginally over the age of 29 years. It is so easy to dictate from afar.

dragonfly46 Sat 25-May-19 13:18:54

I agree with Lynker I think the time has come where you say enough is enough. You have your own health to consider. Once my parents went into care I enjoyed their company once again without the worry of cleaning them up and picking them up off the floor!

Lynker Sat 25-May-19 13:13:20

I was manager of a nursing home for several years and none of the residents really wanted to come in. Some were able to recognise that they needed 24 hour care, but many were not. In my experience they all settled eventually, even if they did give their family a tough time when they visited. It reminded me of leaving a child at the school gates.....they might be protesting, but within a short time were settled and happy (according to teachers) until they saw you again at home time!
I also worked in care management and it sounds to me as though your husband more that meets the criteria for 24 hour care home placement, which would be in both your best interests. I hope you find a solution soon.

Baggs Sat 25-May-19 13:10:52

Just a hug, lucky flowers

midgey Sat 25-May-19 12:52:18

Good idea Jane10, it is not possible to comprehend twenty four hour caring unless you have done it. Luckygirl - hope today is a good one.

Jane10 Sat 25-May-19 12:47:11

Luckygirl could you show your DD this thread? It's hard for us to comprehend how she can just not 'get it' that you really really need a break then better ongoing care in every sense of the word. Alternatively, ask her to move in and cover for you for a week while you go for a break. That might do the trick!