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Vitamin D stopped

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blondenana Wed 10-Apr-19 22:15:50

Had to go to see Dr for a review of my prescriptions, and as my own Dr was off for 12 weeks after an operation,i had to see a locum,
I am absolutely fuming as she tried to stop some of my medication,
My own Dr put me on Vit D 800 mg,she said you dont need those you can buy some they are cheap enough only about £1
I said surely my Dr wouldnt have put me on a high strength if he didnt think i needed them, also tried to stop my HRT ,at that i said i would prefer to see my own Dr when he returned
Who do these locums think they are,i didnt ask for the Vit D.i agree that meds like paracetamol shouldnt be given on prescription ,but i do object to a Dr who doesnt know me taking any of my meds away

rosecarmel Thu 11-Apr-19 17:28:52

Isn't is kind of like saying that both brand name drugs are the same as generic?

It seems, to me, that it would be a doctor's responsibility to know the difference and provide patients with such information -

FlexibleFriend Thu 11-Apr-19 17:49:59

When a gp prescribes something such as Aspirin they don't prescribe a particular brand so the chemist will give you a generic over the counter Aspirin as long as it's the same strength.

kwest Thu 11-Apr-19 17:57:24

May I ask if any of the people protesting are on the basic state pension? If so where is there any money left over for buying vitamins? Household rates have increased by a huge amount this year. Utility bills are becoming eye-watering. I cannot see where the spare funds are mean't to be. I do get annoyed when people are casual about this sort of thing. Some people are already living hand to mouth.

Caro57 Thu 11-Apr-19 18:03:22

Sorry to sound harsh but I bet if it was an emergency you’d take a Dr that ‘didn’t know’ you - and had no knowledge of your med history. This locus had all your previous notes notes. God Bless the NHS - we’d be stuffed without it and need to stop acting like it is a bottomless pit

mumofmadboys Thu 11-Apr-19 18:09:17

It does not matter which company produce say Ibuprofen. The 200 mg ones will all contain 200 mg regardless of who made them. Some drugs such as anti epileptics very occasionally have different bioavailabilty and absorb slightly differently from the gut but this is the exception. In this case it is important ,if possible, to stick to the same company's tablets .

rosecarmel Thu 11-Apr-19 18:11:23

Thank you, kwest - People who walk on eggshells, tiptoeing off to the store to buy vitamins they can either easily or barely afford, and are doing so out of fear because they think if they accept the meds prescribed to them that the system will crash, they aren't protesting anything at all - Nor are they heroes -

grandtanteJE65 Thu 11-Apr-19 18:11:28

Frankly, I am shocked at the professional discourtesy shown by the locum. I would mention it to your GP when he comes back.

Whether or not you could or should buy the vitamins yourself isn't really the point as I see it.

Changing your doctor's prescriptions is a criticism of him, and likely to upset or worry the patient, which is why I find it wrong of the locum.

rosecarmel Thu 11-Apr-19 18:31:36

Inert / inactive ingredients are worth taking into consideration, each carries the potential to respond differently in different bodies - Because just like people, vitamins and pharmaceuticals are not identical -

Usually, you get what you pay for - If something is cheap, it ends up being unsatisfactory - But when it comes to drugs, there's no telling until it's ingested or applied - Despite prices -

Ibuprofen isn't created equally - One brand might upset your stomach while another doesn't - One is a gelcap, another a tablet, another a capsule, another caplet -- each containing different ingredients - Each a different quality or actually contain cross contaminants from facilities not closely monitored -

Matron Thu 11-Apr-19 18:34:31

It’s a Pharmacist you want to respond, not a chemist. But I can assure you the otc meds’ are the same as those prescribed. Why do you think a Pharmacist would suggest buying a drug eg Anusol if it’s cheaper than the price of a prescription?

blueskies Thu 11-Apr-19 18:36:20

A representative from a Japanese pharmaceutical company was given access to patients records at my gp practice. Without me seeing my gp he suggested I take vit d tablets. Issues of patient confidentiality and what was his agenda here. I’m reasonably fit without medication thanks.

rosecarmel Thu 11-Apr-19 18:48:05

I have read and heard time and again that the younger people in the medical industry are up to speed because they've a wealth of information at their fingertips -

But all that knowledge isn't worth a dime of they don't apply it wisely - Right now, they are doing what they want with that knowledge - And doing to whomever is in their care, sometime carelessly - They've really not enough experience, it seems -

sarahellenwhitney Thu 11-Apr-19 18:49:37

When given paracetamol to take home, following my second hip replacement, the only difference I noticed on the packaging was the manufacturer not potency to what I had, in the past, purchased over the counter.

rosecarmel Thu 11-Apr-19 18:52:50

Alright, then - A pharmacist - Thank you for the correction - Perhaps one will respond and provide proof -- either way -

jura2 Thu 11-Apr-19 18:53:59

Mumofbadboys : "Locums are often younger and may be more up to date with current knowledge. Just saying!"

exactly this, as OH used to say after covering for his older partners when on holiday or sick. He was often amazed and more, at their prescribing, to say the least.

Jane10 Thu 11-Apr-19 19:23:56

rosecarmel why on earth would you not believe a GP and an advanced nurse practitioner?

Barmeyoldbat Thu 11-Apr-19 19:40:29

A locus saved my husband life as his own doctor kept saying it was his age but the young locum thought differently and my husband was admitted into hospital very quickly with a life threatening kidney problem, thankfully solved.

Barmeyoldbat Thu 11-Apr-19 19:40:58

Locum not locus, blasted auto correct.

LinkyPinky Thu 11-Apr-19 19:44:14

Anja, this was a rigorous scientific study conducted over 10 years with a sample size of of 30,000 and published in the Annals of Internal Medicine. No way was this ‘pseudoscience’. And trust me, I speak from experience, it is very, very hard to get a research paper accepted by prestigious medical journals. It is not something ‘anyone’ can do. Oh dear me no.

Callistemon Thu 11-Apr-19 19:52:17

rosecarmel why on earth would you not believe a GP and an advanced nurse practitioner?

Jane10 I wondered too

rosecarmel are you in America where perhaps medical matters are more money-driven and there could be over-prescription of some drugs for profit purposes?

Bopeep14 Thu 11-Apr-19 20:36:47

I know this is not the topic, but i saw a locum a few months ago and something i had been struggling with for over 5 years she diagnosed and i will be eternally grateful, my regular GP kept fobing me off. I need to buy fat soluble vitamins for this condition but its what do i cut down on to get them. Its not always black and white.

rosecarmel Thu 11-Apr-19 20:48:10

Callistemon ... Yes, I'm in the US ...

And I may have assumed that over the counter products are not the same as prescribed products all over the globe - Only because evidence points more towards the fact that they are not ... Because they are not!

Say you bake a chocolate cake, from a box, and your mate does too - You use butter, your mate oil - Both are chocolate cakes, are they not? (Yes!) But are they the same? (No!)

Here is a fun article that points to and pins down the truth -- and entertains, too .. smile

www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/03/generic-drugs-the-same-but-not/388592/

Matron Thu 11-Apr-19 21:24:23

The rules and regulation regarding drugs is different in the USA to here in the UK.

nookie Thu 11-Apr-19 21:48:54

We live in a country where we are supposed to get 300 days of sunshine. The health service is very good, we have regular blood tests. Yet I know quite a few people who register low for vitamin D. The worry of skin cancer on our Northern European skin is considerable. I read a report recently that blamed sun screen for the increase in the lack of Vit. D. Rock & a hard place.

jura2 Thu 11-Apr-19 21:50:40

Matron- and let's hope it will remain so in the future.

blondenana Thu 11-Apr-19 22:09:42

I have seen locums before,and usually liked them,i think it was more the attitude of this one, and also found the male locums nicer in attitude
Also yes i am on the basic state pension, and live alone,so only one income, but some vitamins are reasonably cheap
I did go for a review, and thats ok, but she could have just gone over things with me,but still left it up to my own Dr to decide, next time i will wait until i can see him