Cardiovascular diseases

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From Wikipedia - "Some alternative medicine proponents claim that serratiopeptidase is beneficial for pain and inflammation but "existing trials [have been] small and generally of poor methodological quality."Online medical journal Bandolier (specializing in evidence-based thinking about healthcare) published an article (in about 2001) in response to a reader's enquiry about serratiopeptidase. After searching PubMed and the Cochrane Library "to see if there are any randomised, controlled trials", the article stated that the "evidence on serratiopeptidase being effective for anything is not based on a firm foundation of clinical trials."

The search found 34 publications in the medical databases covered, that addressed the efficacy of serratiopeptidase, of which several were found to be animal experiments, personal letters, uncontrolled trials or those with inadequate or nonexistent randomisation. The article warned against ignoring safety issues with use of biological agents. No studies were found to have been conducted on the efficacy of serratiopeptidase as treatment for back pain, heart attack, stroke, or asthma. Of the 10 medical conditions with randomized-evidence studies on file in connection with serratiopeptidase, the quality or construction of the trial studies was described as "generally poor". "

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serratiopeptidase

quote - "For cardiovascular diseases you would require serrapeptase, Hawthorne berry syrup, magnesium and sunshine "

Magnesium and sunshine are esential to everyone, but can usually be obtained by sensible nutrition. I have no knowledge on the use of hawthorn berry syrup, except that " its side effects are said to include agitation, dizziness, circulation disturbances, fatigue, intestinal disturbances, headache, nausea, nosebleeds, palpitations, insomnia, stomach upsets, sweating." ( www.rxlist.com/consumer_hawthorn/drugs-condition.htm)

I understand that levels of chlorine in UK water are lower than in many other countries, so perhaps OK residents can worry somewhat less.

OK UK residents!

This is probably why the Pharma companies and GP's are pushing statins-----to clear the plaque left behind by dodgy water.

Fritz Harber said that chlorine taken at low doses over a long period of time would have the same effect as a high dose.

Chlorinated water would take about 20 years to cause cardiovascular diseases or cancers. Even if you don't drink chlorinated water, you will breathe in the chlorine when you shower.

Statins would have no effect on the calcium/chlorine plaque and no effect on the scar tissue.

I consumed quite a lot of hawthorn berry tea and suffered no ill effects. One would require 3 1/2 teaspoons a day, so your reported side effects are most likely dose dependent.

It is very easy to fake medical research and the Mayo Clinic also faked a test.

Serrapeptase is found in silk worm moth saliva, but since serrapeptase is being made synthetically, you don't have to eat silk worm moths. Serrapeptase consumes dead matter.

Oh grief!! We can't even have a drink of water or a shower now! If we spent all our time worrying about what we can eat, drink or do, we'd never do anything except starve to death.

If this is about water in the US, why not concentrate on warning US consumers? Tell them about the chlorine-washed chickens too,.

My chief target was America but publishers appeared to be too scared to publish my book, so I eventually turned to health forums to notify people as to what is going on.

Chlorine is a banned weapon of war. America complained that the Syrian government had dropped a chlorine bomb.

Apparently 48 states in America are adding fluoride to their water, but fluoride is a neurotoxin. It drops IQ's. The decline in IQ's appears to be accelerating.

World health is in free fall under governments supervision so, I need allies. Please notify people about this dialogue.

In 2016, the revenue of the American medical industry was $3,4 trillion. That is about 19% of their GDP. Governments are using diseases to fuel their economies while doctors cannot even cure the common cold let alone cope with a pandemic.

We are all sitting ducks.

Over 60% of the American diet consists of FDA approved inflammatory refined processed foods. This morning I heard on the news that about 70% of women in South Africa are over weight and about 31% of men are over weight. I live in Cape Town, but apparently the average South African IQ is about 78, so I am surrounded by stupidity.

In 1937, a scientific document was handed to the American Congress stating the soils had been demineralised and that people's health would suffer. As far as I know, nothing was done about that document.

Instead of fluoride, they should be adding "organic" silica. There are many medical lies, so people are suffering.

Under FDA supervision, the medical industry is killing about 200 000 Americans a year. A researcher at the University of Chicago found that 1 out of every 3 medicines sold in America have depressive inducing side effects so suicides became the 10th biggest killers in America.

I heard a while ago that about 10% of English people had not had a conversation for a month. Apparently, London is the loneliest place in England, but depression is more prevalent in big cities. Many people suffer from touch deprivation.

I hope that I am not over loading you or boring you.

Eat plenty of apples, my Mom says that they are more effective than statins, she is nearly 97 and has very little medication, and no statins and their awful side effects. She is not diabetic either so she must be doing something right.

There is an expression, an apple a day keeps the doctor away, Shropshirelass.

Grated apple if you have diarrhoea is better than taking medication. Apple juice is also good for you too ( pure )

Frankly, K9PH, you sound a bit 'out there' I don't have time to investigate all your claims, but I did do background work on a major trial in Scotland involving addition of fluorde to water. A full review of possible harmful effects of fluoride are reported in

www.nhs.uk/conditions/fluoride/documents/crdreport18.pdf

Apples and bananas contain pectin.

Humptydumpty, you wasted my time scanning that report. It was all inconclusive.

Since I couldn't get the user name that I had wanted, I made it K9PH as a joke but I don't know whether any of you got it.

I hope that I have not being wasting my time. Doctors prescribe calcium to treat osteoporosis, but calcium can't strengthen bones, but supplementing with calcium could increase the risk of suffering a heart attack by over 100% due to bonding with chlorine.

There is so much evil and stupidity that I often think about capitulating.

That is what happens when you read actual reports, they are so often inconclusive - but that is genuine science and evidence-based medicine for you.

I notice that this was a metastudy - an analysis of the available data in published studies on the subject, and a review of the conclusions reached in the 241 studies which reached the required standard for inclusion. That saved you the time you could have spent reading those 241 studies yourself, so your time has not gone to waste, but was spent reading an expert analysis. You should be grateful to HumptyDumpty for saving you that expenditure of effort, not complaining that she has wasted your time.

It is explained "214 studies met full inclusion criteria for one or more of the objectives. No randomised controlled trials of the effects of water fluoridation were found. The study designs used included 45 ‘before and after’ studies, 102 cross-sectional studies, 47 ecological studies, 13 cohort (prospective or retrospective) studies and 7 case-control studies. Several studies were reported in multiple papers over a number of years."

I think I shall stop wasting MY time reading someone who only wants studies which prove their pet theory, and which don't reach the valid and honest conclusion that the data so far shows that the evidence is inconclusive. Goodbye.