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Be Proactive about your health issues

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Franbern Thu 29-Aug-19 09:48:56

I cannot stress strongly enough the need for people, particularly we older ones, to be pro-active. So easy just to rely on the Health Professionals sorting us out when we have any problems.
However, they have such limited time when they see us, and due to that, these days, they just do not have the facilities to see us as a whole person. They just try to deal with each and any problem we may present with.
I have an excellent GP practice, but even they missed the early signs of my bladder cancer - just continuing to give me anti-biotics for each and every UTI I had.
It was only when I wrote to them, giving the full details and recent history did they fast track me to urology at hospital. If I had not done so, doubtless, i would still be being given more ab.s.
We are intelligent beings and do know our own bodies, particularly when we have lived in them for so very many years, it is up to us to assist the professionals to get us on the right path.

Marydoll Thu 29-Aug-19 10:36:37

I totally agree, Franbern and best wishes for your forthcoming op.

When I was rushed to A&E with a potentially fatal allergy to a rheumatoid drug, the receiving doctor told me, she wished there were more patients as informed as me.
She was unfamiliar with the medication, but I was able to tell her what the side effects were and how it should be treated. (It stays for a long time in your system after stopping).
My DH then handed her the list of all my meds, why I took them and the contact details of my consultants.

The doctor said it had saved so much time, trying to work out what was wrong with me and allow them to treat me quickly and contact my consultants.

Franbern Thu 29-Aug-19 13:35:32

I always keep a current list of medications with their daily dosages, in my diary. This is always with me, and it is so much easier just to hand this over when asked what medicines I am taking.

sharon103 Thu 29-Aug-19 13:44:36

I totally agree Franbern. They don't always listen though.
I know of a man who told the doctor he thought it was something else rather than the diagnosis they gave. He kept insisting they were wrong.
He died not so long after.
He had cancer.

annep1 Thu 29-Aug-19 15:39:37

Good advice Franbern. Thank you.

Doctors don't always listen. But more and more ours ask, What do you think is wrong?

The first time I was annoyed and thought, Well, you're the doctor.
But it makes sense. We know our own bodies.

Ellianne Thu 29-Aug-19 16:18:25

Good advice. You're so right that the GP doesn't look at the whole person anymore, especially at our surgery where you're only allowed to mention one ailment per visit.
My uncle was a gp long ago and he always used to spend time slowly taking every patient's blood pressure to give both him and them time to think and get a better picture.
I hope all goes well for you.

Floradora9 Thu 29-Aug-19 17:27:25

Oh how I agree I cannot see how people let themselves be short changed regarding thier health care . We had a friend who was forever at the doctors about something and others complained about her . Turned out she was right and had cancer. If you wait too long for a hospital appointment phone them .

SueDonim Thu 29-Aug-19 18:23:41

Annep1 that's exactly how medics today are trained - to let the patient lead the consultation. Basically, they'll listen to your description, ask you what you think it might be, followed up with what outcome are you looking for and how do you want to achieve that?

The days of passive patients have gone, we must be active participants in our health.

Moocow Thu 29-Aug-19 20:34:29

Sadly, I would repeat what sharon123 said.
Franbern and others very good suggestion! I will get round to it sooner than planned as I had not thought how useful this could be I was only thinking of my DH and AC.

tidyskatemum Thu 29-Aug-19 20:56:00

SueDonim - perhaps we don't always want to be masters of our own treatment when invariably we don't have enough information. Surely GPs can offer advice on the best way forward instead of simply presenting options, which is what our GP does and expects you to make an instant decision.

annep1 Thu 29-Aug-19 22:18:17

I think its good to have more input and you can always ask questions and ask the doctor to make the decision.

SueDonim Thu 29-Aug-19 22:21:33

Tidyskatemum you should always ask for more information if you don't feel you have enough and you can ask for more time to make a decision, too.

Today's doctors don't like telling patients what to do, but you can always ask them what they'd do if they were in your situation.

Happiyogi Thu 29-Aug-19 22:37:13

Excellent advice Franbern.

I think part of our trouble is being old enough to have grown up in the "Doctor knows best" era, with parents who were very deferential. I suppose it would have been difficult for them to challenge a medical opinion or decision, in pre-internet times. I remember a family medical dictionary - it must have been woefully out of date but was really the only independent source of information available.

Wishing you the best of luck with your treatment.

MawB Thu 29-Aug-19 23:22:14

You don’t want it to go as far as this

Barmeyoldbat Fri 30-Aug-19 09:49:25

Yes I totally agree. I kept complaining about a pain on my right hand side just by my ribs. In the end the Dr said ok we will get a scan of the upper body. They found a lump on my ovary and a blood test showed a high risk of cancer. It was but it is all now sorted.

This would never have been found if I hadn't been given a scan. Still having the pain and its getting worse so I am now two years on having a another scan.

Gingergirl Fri 30-Aug-19 09:52:33

As a holistic therapist,I’m always surprised by how many of my clients haven’t really understood what a doctor has said to them, haven’t questioned anything, and don’t know much about their prescribed medications, side effects etc. I understand how this can come about and it’s regretful that it does. But I agree with the comments here....you do need to take some responsibility for your own health....know where you’re heading treatment wise, and why, what you’re taking and what you can expect from the medicines. Don’t be frightened of seeking a second opinion at any time. This is all so hard when we are given minimal time with a doctor but it’s still so important. People like me are often accused of overlooking serious illness in our clients-In decades of work, I have never known that to happen-in fact quite the opposite-we often (although it isn’t our job to diagnose medically) pick up on warning signs that have previously not been recognised, sadly.

icanhandthemback Fri 30-Aug-19 10:13:23

I am amazed by how little Dr's take in. I have been accompanying my adult daughter to appointments for over a decade each time explaining that I am there because of her anxiety so I was somewhat surprised when the only GP she would see asked why I was always there.
She doesn't go anywhere by herself, her HV wants her treated because she recognises that she is verging on agoraphobia and she has sought help since her early teens when she was self harming. Yesterday, with the assistance of her support worker, she spoke to a new Dr by telephone who proceeded to prescribe her with anti-depressants for her post natal depression and will see her in 3 weeks. The Dr completely dismissed her history of anxiety. I think I probably know my daughter better than anyone and I can categorically state that she does not have PND (she has suffered before so I would recognise the signs). In fact, I can honestly say I have never seen her so content in many ways but her inability to go out without accompaniment , to make telephone calls, to even attend family events because it is too stressful for her, are shutting down her life to a great degree whilst putting great pressure on her husband.

Willow500 Fri 30-Aug-19 11:11:26

Sadly we lost a good friend last week because the GP/hospital didn't act quickly on his symptoms early enough.

My husband has been going back and forth to the GP with what he knew was a hernia since last year. Both doctor and the consultant he was referred to for an ultrasound missed it. He went back yet again in May when this thing became so big and uncomfortable and still the doctor didn't know what it was - he was referred for another scan and the same consultant took one look at him and said you've got a hernia!! Husband said I told you that last year - they don't know how it was missed. He's been referred for surgery but so far we've heard nothing so have this morning rung the GP and been told the scan results have no comments on them. I rang the urology department and was told to contact the GP to get them to gee things up so he can have a contact in the surgery department. This hernia is now the size of a large orange and even I can see it through his trousers - I've no idea how he's managing to walk although he can't do much of that!

Nanny41 Fri 30-Aug-19 11:25:15

I agree there is only one symptom we should present with it seems.I have an advantage having been a Nurse all my life I often recognise things, and my Doctor is often glad that we agree on the diagnosis,he is a good listener too!

goldengirl Fri 30-Aug-19 11:33:31

I watched part of a programme yesterday which I think was called GPs Behind Closed Doors and was surprised at - what seemed to me the lack of knowledge. One woman described bloating, diarrhoea etc and the doctor said it was IBS and gave out a leaflet about services in the area - no mention of the IBS Network which has loads of information on the subject including ways of coping. Other patients too were handed this particular leaflet - one guy's partner had suffered a miscarriage and he had taken it badly thinking he could have done something to help. Again no charities were mentioned but this leaflet was given to him at a time when I felt he needed specific help. The straight forward removal of stitches, sore noses etc appeared to dealt with more easily.
I have to admit I have become far more proactive about my health than I ever have been and this in its own way adds its own stress

nipsmum Fri 30-Aug-19 11:34:33

I agree we don't always tell our GP what is wrong with us . We go in with vague symptoms and expect the Dr to know what we are talking about. If you don't see a Dr very regularly then they don't know you and can't always make an informed decision from what you've told them. I would say be clear what you want to tell them and if need be write a note for yourself. If you don't think they listened make another appointment and if possible be clear and concise in what you say. unfortunately men are not good at describing how they feel and tend to be vague and beat around the bush. Drs ar not mind and thought readers.

Bijou Fri 30-Aug-19 11:34:38

Many years ago I suffered with a sore throat for more than three months. The doctor at that time didn’t even look at my throat but continuously prescribed antibiotics. Next time I visited doc was on holiday and there was a locum, a young Vietamnese. He examined my throat and said it was caused by a hiatus hernia and hospital appointment confirmed this diagnosis.
I was suffering bleeding from the back passage and doc said it was haemerroids. However one night it was so bad went to A&E. It was anal cancer. Fortunately now in remission

GrandmaJan Fri 30-Aug-19 11:40:30

I write everything down I want to discuss with any symptoms. I’m a Nurse Prescriber/Practitioner and some of my training was similar to GP training so I can tell when a GP isn’t listening. I find that now everything is computerised and GP’s have gone paperless it sometimes seems as though they typing and not listening but they are 9 times out of 10, it comes with practice.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Aug-19 11:50:37

This year I have decided to sort myself out top to toe and just about finished now.

So

I started with toes, toenail fungus for donkeys years. 6 weeks of treatment and now clear.

Just done my bowl cancer screen - clear

Had blood tests for cholestral, kidney function, liver function, diabetic - clear

Blood pressure - high so have just spent 24 hrs wearing a monitor. I suspect it is stress as I’ve been dealing with a bed ridden incontinent querulous 101 year old mum and a sister who has gone into melt down over the difficult situation. Hoping to avoid drugs if I can. But I guess better than a stroke or heart attack.

Yesterday had a pre-skin cancer diagnoses on my face. It is something that I have had for 2 years and trying to clear. Now have a form of chemo cream to apply for 3 weeks and then should be clear.

Appointment booked for eye test. Time I had glasses I think.

Shoulder cuff injury done in April is definitely improving with help of physio.

That’s me sorted???

Mincub Fri 30-Aug-19 11:56:42

I’ve always said ........’your life is in the best hands it can be ...your own’!