Antibacterial products for a virus - really??

I wish we were being as vigilant as China, Jennifer E and then our cases would not be rising. I see we are still allowing flights from Northern Italy. Sigh.

Meanwhile some good news.
The number of new cases in China is continuing to fall.

Definitely time for shops to limit sale of specific items, even though people who are able to will visit multiple shops every day.

I bought some sprays to protect against Norovirus last year which I've kept in the car to use after shopping so have put one in my bag. I've always washed my hands after coming home as supermarket trolley handles are notoriously covered in germs. I also never touch escalators or handrails much to my husband's worry - he's convinced I'll have an accident one day I've also filled some spray bottles with Zoflora to use at home - I stocked up on that at Christmas when they brought out the seasonal fragrances so haven't panic bought it for Corona. In fact I haven't panic bought anything.

My GD and DIL's both work for Tescos and GD came home last night saying they are now restricting some items such as loo rolls, pasta and paracetamols to customers - about time too. All shops now need to do this to avoid those selfish folks stockpiling.

I was just going to write the same Barmeyoldbat. I've bought the large wipes advertised as 'kills 99.9% of bacteria, including E.coli, salmonella and MRSA', so that is worth doing anyway when we're out and about. I've cut one into small pieces and popped them in a make-up bag. Whenever I need to wipe a surface I'll use one of those.

The cashier in Tesco looked at me as though I'm a barmey old bat when I keyed in my card number with my car key. Those key pads must be nasty at the best of times.

I have bought some large detail wipes for cleaning surfaces. I put one a plastic bag when I go out and use it to wipe my hands, open the toilet door etc. Also wearing gloves.

I was having this conversation with my son yesterday who works up in central London as to the need for anti bacterial hand wash, he laughingly said might as well carry a small bottle of high volume alcohol in the absence of not being able to get hold of any and wipe that round our hands. Anyway I've ordered some cotton gloves off Amazon, there are quite a few in the packet so i'll drop them in disinfectant before I wash them.

Having seen pictures on line of arse wipes of selfish people staggering out of shops loaded to the gunnels with arse wipes toilet rolls I do think they might spare a thought for those with certain medical conditions that really need such a product and then there is none left for them. For the average person who doesn't have any such problems there would be a way round the situation, soap and water and disposable flannel if you had no other choice, or simply dip your rear end in bath or shower in the absence of a bidet in most homes. The "I'm alright Jack pull up the ladder" attitude is shocking Lack of toilet rolls won't kill us we would all have to think of other solutions, it's not as if they've been around since the time of William the Conqueror or before!

Always used Zoflora, lovely choice of smells and it’s so cheap! But, do remember that it’s not safe for animals. So only let them near an area you,ve sprayed or used it when it’s dry.

I’ve always kept a spray in my bag and in the car for my hands after supermarket trolleys if I can’t wash hands. Now I wear latex gloves to shop and bin them outside the supermarket. Certainly not foolproof but cuts down some of the more obvious risks. France has run out of gel....though easy to make our own with right ingredients......but Government has authorised all Pharmacies to make and sell their own now - and fixed the price they can charge. A small but helpful move.

Zoflora is a nice flowery smelling disinfectant which states that it kills viruses. I am going to mix some into a spray bottle to use when out and about for trolley handles, etc.

..... and be careful how you remove the gloves.

Wear gloves outside, don’t touch your face at all (!) and once back home soap and hot water for at least 20 seconds.

If they contain alcohol they should be ok M0nica Some hand wipes do and others don't.

I have put a small thick cotton cloth into a ziplock bag. That will be my wiper cloth

I bought some anti-viral hand wipes, or so they say.

Oops my apologies for the typo craftyone

Yes crafyone a spray bottle like they often have on reception desks in a medical centre etc.

It is partly about logistics eg the few parcels that will be arriving this week. Delivery drivers who are self employed and cannot/will not self-isolate. The cardboard, the carrying in, the placement while using a knife to slit them open. Opening the dishwasher door, opening envelopes. I am no longer going to put any of these on a table, will use the floor, then dispose of the wrapping, then spray all handles and surfaces with disinfectant spray

It is extreme I know it is, I am abandoning hand dishwashing today, its not hot enough. Same spray can be carried for use on car door handle, steering wheel and car keys. Does not have to be a virucidal gel, they were marketed because they were convenient. A small spray bottle would work

The messages I have given are not meant to scare anyone. Just remember the old adage - coughs and sneezes spread diseases and why they do. Simple precautions, simple solutions. No need to panic.

For anyone in a vulnerable category, I know this may sound a little strange but if you dye your hair and happen to have an unused sealed packet of gloves you could always tape them down with micropore or a similar medical tape when touching anything in places like supermarkets etc. If you have medical gloves in the home you can take with you when you go out, all the better. When you take them off, don't touch them with your bare hands, use a tissue or kitchen roll etc and discard all. It may look a little strange but some people need to wear medical gloves or similar when they are out and about all the time whether there is a nasty contagion around or not.

we are going to reap the rewards of public toilet closures, no-where to give hands a good wash when out, except if in one of the few remaining areas which kept a good clean washroom

Covid 19 is a HCID (highly contagious infective disease) and is spread by contact with infected fluids. This means that infected nasal or oral fluids can infect another person if they come into physical contact with the infected fluids. The best protection from a HCID is to create a barrier to that contact. Using a hand gel with a high alcohol content acts as a disinfectant. It is important to use this disinfectant regularly when you are likely to touch any unseen fluid that might contain the infection. That is why the advice is to disinfect, avoid touching your eyes, mouth or nose before and after possible contact.

I cannot get hand gel anywhere. I have respiratory and autoimmune conditions. Thanks to all the selfish sods out there, myself and many others like me will probably become ill. It's folk like that selfish sh** of an old man that really p* me off. Sorry, but Im very angry with the likes of him that think of no one but themselves.

I've just made a batch of my own but I know it's not going to protect against a virus!!

Nevertheless, if people get a feeling of comfort and safety from spraying themsevles and every surface with an anti-bacterial wash, it can't be entirely wasted.

It’s annoying me too Doodledog . My DH has a compromised immune system and has been advised to use hand gel in public places including hospital (where he picked up the HAI germs that almost killed him) . I always keep a small bottle in my handbag and a larger bottle at home but have been unable to get any at all. You can’t carry a sink, soap and hot water around with you and hospital door handles are probably some of the worst places.