Do you know anyone with CV?

Gagago, you are worried about contracting it as your daughter who lives with you had the symptoms.
You then say you’re contemplating travel.
Are you not aware you could then be infecting others?
There is no hope of containment with this attitude.

Oopsadaisy3 no, he hadn't been anywhere, (he didn't have the water running in his lungs feeling, which MamaCaz has just described) so yes, it was most probably the flu. But MamaCaz does sound like she has had it. There must be others that have been undiagnosed, and as we have not had mass testing, we will never know the true picture.

I too had something that I now realize had the symptoms of mild Covid earlier this year. The symptoms included fluid (felt like water) running down into my lungs, something that I have never before experienced in my life!
I remember coughing in vain to try to relieve/remove it, and wondering what on earth could be causing it.

With hindsight, I was extremely lucky that this didn't turn to pneumonia, but it was before Covid was officially in this country, or at least before anyone who hadn't travelled to China was known to have had it, and as it remained mild, it never crossed my mind at the time that it could be more than just a nasry cold, albeit one with a symptom I've never had before!.

Don't suppose it could have been Covid because of the timing, unless it has been here longer than they think, but if I got the same thing now, I would certainly think I had it!

And how long are they infectious for? I can avoid going home but not indefinitely!

Yes, flu is around as usual and we won't know who has CV with no testing. Things look really grim with emergency measures coming soon, four months isolation for over 70's, schools and ports subject to closure and public transport stopped.

JCB and Rolls Royce have been asked to turn production over to ventilators - too little, too late (again).

We have half the ventilators (per person) compared to Italy, where it's like a war zone:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/14/italians-80-will-left-die-country-overwhelmed-coronavirus/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

My BiL may have it, but without the tests we don't know. Not like him to be ill, so it's a worry especially as my DSis has immune system deficiency. Not helpful not being able to be tested. It would put our minds at rest if we knew either way and what to expect.

How are the scientists going to analyse the location/spread and severity of the disease if there are no stats?

Yes please, Oopsadaisy. Thank you!

Curlywhirly had your husband been to China?
If not is was probably that awful flu that was going around.
As you say, unless we get tested no one will ever know who has had it and recovered, I assume that we could still just get the flu?

The more I think about it, I think my husband had it just after Christmas. He suddenly felt very tired and had no energy, then he developed a high temperature and was drenched, followed by a very irritating dry cough. It lasted for about a week. I never caught it thankfully. But as he was never tested, we will never know.

gagajo I’m reluctant to post too many details on GN, in case it ends up on FB.
Can I PM you?

I think as long as they're not too unwell, it's fine.

It concerns me though, because tomorrow I'm supposed to go home (daughter and grandson live in my house) and at my age, with low immunities, I don't want to get it. What is your family member on chemo doing to stay safe?

At the moment, thank goodness, i know of no one with the virus. Hoping it stays that way.

PS
As no one is being tested it’s all supposition though.

Which IMO is even more worrying.

DDs other half has all of the symptoms, he is a teacher and a pupil had symptoms earlier in the week, but her parents wouldn’t let her stay at home.

As another family member is having Chemo it’s worrying.