I am very cross - a corona virus story.

Don't be too hard on schnackie - I think we've put her off posting with our harsh judgements. I'm sure she agrees with us and is regretting her generosity, but all she can do now is to wait our the next two weeks of self isolation - please God the two ladies ARE self isolating - and hope neither of them catches the virus.
Please be kind to a lady who has put her own health on the line on order to help a relative.

Yes to Suziewoozie

why hasn't our esteemed (not) PM shut our borders and closed the whole issue off?

OP made her choice but it was not a good one....is the visitor even staying in? or going out and if infected continuing to spread the infection?

Gaga no the OP doesn’t have the RIGHT to make her own choices in this matter any more than I have the RIGHT to drive my car whilst drunk. She has the CHOICE and she has made the wrong one. The sad thing is that, just like the drunk driver, these CHOICES may adversely impact people who had no say in the making of them

If cowardly BJ would just lock us down NOW then choices could be taken away from those incapable of making them correctly.

Gagajo

True

She however should brace for the consequences for her actions and the perceived lack of support if she comes back with getting sick or her cousin creating more problems

schnackie has the right to make her own choice regardless of what we've all said. She's not under contract to follow our instructions!

Teddy5005 You need to start your own thread. We are all involved with the OP and the crazy situation she has allowed herself to get into.

What happened to protected times in supermarkets for shift workers and the vulnerable???? I completed a 12 hour night shift with a really bad back this morning. Drove to Tesco’s . Walked up the long isle , nothing !!!! So now out of bread as did not stock pile . So a big thank you to everyone who have left me and my diabetic partner without the basics of live !!

I have read and re-read these comments ............ do I understand correctly and you have already welcomed her back into your home?

When not one of us suggested you do this you still went ahead and did it?

Am I right? Really?

I would do exactly at TXquilz suggested == her problem is with the USA so the US Embassy would be the first port of call....she may well try to make you feel guilty but it was HER decision to fly to Athens and no one else is responsible for her. The US Embassy must have this problem with other US nationals ….have you tried phoning their emergency line for help for US citizens ? (may be open even on a weekend ? I hope she is not expecting you to meet her at the airport ...this reminds me somewhat of the TV sitcom last week Last Tango in Halifax...although I wouldn't want the outcome for her to be the same ! This is very hard on you and unfair ...I do hope you can sort this out !

schnackie
you say:

I have let her in ???????????

It's not about whether you have the virus or any underlying conditions.

It's about what she has picked up on her recent adventure

You DO NOT have to let her in!

Think of others, not just yourself. She needs to go into quarantine anyway and that is not possible journeying to be at your house.

I'm feeling tired... Please do not have her to stay. People are asked to go back to their home countries. She must go back to the States.

schnackie

Has she arrived?

If she is at the airport tell her to go straight home. She must return to the States. Can you send this message before she attempts to turn up at your home? Can you involve the authorities concerning her - the US embassy, Gatwick to return her to the States?

Please let us know. I'm so sorry you are lumbered with such a dreadful situation at a time when life is so hard already.

The idea to show her this thread seems a good one to me. Please put yourself and Daughter first. Tell her you cannot have her she must go home.

Please let us know. Bless you. Good luck xxx

schnackie. A good, well-deserved rant!

What utter idiots people are! I'm in high risk group and have been isolated simply because of my disabilities for years. A very kind neighbour took to bringing nice bits of food to me occasionally. I was touched. I saw her at the beginning of self-isolation and told her I have to isolate now. She was agreeable and understanding. And continues to ring the bell and hand over food. She is in contact with many people through her job and her family. It's driving me mad.

That was my rant.

Oh how I feel for you schnackie, your story is really terrible! I have never been able to explain things to ignorant strong minded people, and I really feel for you regarding this woman! Please make it clear that she cannot return to you and must return to her home country.

For heavens sake, Schnakie, just book her into a hotel.
She shouldn’t even be coming into your house.
As others have said. Explain your situation. ie, I am in isolation.
If she doesn’t like it, she can lump it.

I wish you hadn't let her in, but I know how hard it is to say no to family. Please, please take extreme precautions and remember the virus lives for hours, possibly days, on surfaces.

I think US citizens are allowed to go home at the moment but I would think it is hard to get a plane.

Letting her in overnight totally defeats the purpose of you saying NO. She cannot come to your home at all.

Be firm, Be strong - and make sure your family are there to back you up. She is not your problem.

Can't she go to a hotel and self isolate. Think EasyJet will drop her at Gatwick as that was the start of her journey in the UK. Will the USA Embassy in UK not help sort out her getting back as she will be a citizen surely with healthcare etc. Just say No, she can't stay with you especially with the Covid-19 situation. Totally irresponsible twat she is.

Oh I posted too late.

Well i hope you remain ok

I hope it works well for you both, and am glad 111 didn’t think it too trivial to deal with.

OP do not let this woman into your flat

Don't you love your DD enough to grow a back bone?

Oh! Now I understand and admire your generosity. ?

Perhaps if she approaches customs on arrival they will isolate her as they did with others returnees. But hopefully they will ensure she flies out to the US. Her travel insurance is presumably void now? She has proven herself incapable of making good decisions or of following the rules so you have to turn her away. Good luck and it would be great to hear she is off home which is where she should have gone two weeks ago? Let us know how you get on.

Sorry, hit post too soon - so I have let her in, but I am insisting on keeping several metres distance, and yes, I am sleeping in the living room as it is the room I prefer. But thank you all for your concern and wonderful advice, and hilarious comments. I think I am too old now to get my big girl pants on, but I will try and avoid contaminating anyone else.

I am totally embarrassed and hanging my head, but feel an obligation to let you all know what happened. First of all, Jaxie hit the nail on the head - I had a peripatetic mother and was often terrified of a relative turning us away from shelter. Meanwhile, I also wish to apologise for my anti-American comments. My strong willed and amazing daughter is American and I was commenting on personal opinions. And finally, I called 111 for advice, and believe it or not, their advice is that if neither of us has any symptoms (and no, I have no underlying medical issues) then we don't even need to self - isolate!

How can anybody be so thoughtless and selfish? She really is not your responsibility, but of course you are worried. You and your immediate family are the most important, so I think you should stop all contact with her. If and when she is released she should go back to her own home - not yours because with all her travelling she could be infectious.

If she asked you to chuck yourself off a cliff would you do it? Of course not. This is the equivalent although thinking about it is even worse. There is further risk coming through the airport here, the taxi driver is at risk, you are at risk and she should be self isolating for 14 days. That means exactly that and staying at yours is not self isolating. If you both get the virus that is added pressure on an overburden NHS. DONT DO IT. There must be some policy in place for this situation and your cousin needs to find out what it is. She is a grown woman for Heaven's sake and it's time she acted like one.