Obesity linked to poverty

Nannan2

Id probably buy the spaghetti.if its dried pasta.not if its cans..then see what i have in cupboard/fridge already to make a sauce/recipe for it.

But what if you had nothing else in the cupboard? You'd end up with a plate of refined carbs, which would fill you up, but not be very nutritious. It would be OK occasionally, but if that's all you ever ate, you'd end up severely malnourished.

Sys2ad2

Children should be taught to cook in schools they always used to. I have just grown beans and potatoes in lockdown seeds for beans from neighbour and an old potato from a bag delicious and free. Plenty of cheap meals can be made from chicken and mince just need onions carrots peppers etc batch cook and freeze. Lidl has offers every week on fresh fruit and veg so you buy the offers

I don't have a local Lidl and loads of others don't either. If I had to rely on shops within walking distance, I'd pay double for my food and have almost no choice (and no fresh food at all).

gillybob

^You clearly have no idea how intimidating and hurtful women can be towards others who choose (for whatever reason) not to breast feed^

Exactly Oopsminty a while back I posted that the Chinese were buying up all the baby milk in Newcastle and sending it to China for profit. This was absolutely true before I am accused of racism.

Instead of offering sympathy that my DD was unable to find any of the correct milk to feed her (very allergic) baby I was harangued by some for the fact that my DD was not breastfeeding.

Why do some women do this to other women? Instead of sticking together and supporting each other ? I can never understand it .

I remember that gillybob.
I may have posted because one of my DD was ill with breast milk but fine when put on formula.

Everyone has a freezer big enough to fill up with batch cooking?
I don't.

Ps Chinese people were buying the baby milk up in Australia too because of scares with baby milk manufactured in China.

QuickFire9

Jenpax I totally disagree. We were in the situation when my husband lost his job years ago. A, a Macdonald’s burger is not a meal and B, you can cook a pot of nutritious food for a family so much cheaper and it’s more filling. Salad isn’t that expensive if you shop around either to go with a pasta and homemade bolognese, it is if it’s all bought pre cut in bags. Fairy cakes cost hardly anything to make, milk is inexpensive and custard powder for a pudding. Homemade soup. Bananas are the cheapest most nutritious food you can buy already packed in a take away skin. People are too lazy to bother these days.

My goodness! That's not cooking on a strict budget! I wouldn't make fairy cakes (empty calories) or eat custard (too much sugar) and I don't eat pasta (refined carbs).

Furret

Perhaps I should post a definition of hyperbole?

I’m trying not to inhale my tea having a vision of Chinese people with trollies full of baby milk checking out at Aldis all over Newcastle. Why Newcastle and not Liverpool or Dover or Much-Binding-in-the-Marsh?

Because Furret I have no idea of the habits of the Chinese communities in Liverpool or Dover or even if there is a large Chinese community in these areas.

…….and the special baby milk my DGD NEEDED (believe it or not ) is not sold in Aldi .

So instead of your ridiculous sarcasm why not check the story out for yourself ? It was in most of the press at the time.

MissAdventure

Everyone has a freezer big enough to fill up with batch cooking?
I don't.

I don't either.

….and hope you didn't "inhale your tea". perhaps you should try drinking it.

Perhaps it saves calories if you inhale it?

growstuff

MissAdventure

Everyone has a freezer big enough to fill up with batch cooking?
I don't.

I don't either.

Me neither . I've got a tiny freezer (just 3 little drawers) when I batch cook (which I do most weeks ) its to supply other members of my family with meals.

gillybob

Furret

Perhaps I should post a definition of hyperbole?

I’m trying not to inhale my tea having a vision of Chinese people with trollies full of baby milk checking out at Aldis all over Newcastle. Why Newcastle and not Liverpool or Dover or Much-Binding-in-the-Marsh?

Because Furret I have no idea of the habits of the Chinese communities in Liverpool or Dover or even if there is a large Chinese community in these areas.

…….and the special baby milk my DGD NEEDED (believe it or not ) is not sold in Aldi .

So instead of your ridiculous sarcasm why not check the story out for yourself ? It was in most of the press at the time.

I remember that story too gillybob. I was a bit sceptical when I first read it, but I talked to the parents of my Chinese student and they confirmed that they know people who do it. They also buy up European branded chocolate apparently and ship it back to China.

And I also remember the criticisms about the fact that your DD uses formula. I'm come across the breast "mafia" before.

I have little drawers too.

There are about 3 million millionaires in China, so there's a big market for good quality goods.

Apparently the problem is even worse in Australia Growstuff where they buy crates of the stuff .

Sometimes the Boots in Newcastle hasn't got a bit of babymilk on the shelves despite them having limits on purchases.

Firecracker when you quote other people's posts, could you italicise them or highlight so that it is clear? Just so that we know whether it is your point of view or someone else's? Otherwise it sometimes reads as if you are arguing with yourself!

Firecracker123

My observation is that it is young women who are mostly overweight/ obese, teenage boys and young men are mostly slim with legs like drainpipes in skinny jeans whereas some of the teenage girls and young women have legs that can only be described as tree trunks. I think it's becoming the norm and instead of dressing to disguise their bad points ie legs bums and bellies they seem to wear clingy clothes oblivious to what they look like lol.

They don't look like that where I live. Have you tried a trip to Barnard Castle recently?

PS. It's the middle aged and older people who are the fatties, so maybe bread and dripping and home made puds with mothers who spent their time being good housewives didn't do that much good.

Perhaps the young women with tree trunk legs take after their mums/grans.

growstuff

There are about 3 million millionaires in China, so there's a big market for good quality goods.

You'd think they could have sorted out the problems with baby milk in China by now though.

gillybob

Apparently the problem is even worse in Australia Growstuff where they buy crates of the stuff .

Sometimes the Boots in Newcastle hasn't got a bit of babymilk on the shelves despite them having limits on purchases.

Yes, they told me that too. It's obviously cheaper to ship from Australia to China. You would have thought the manufacturers would have cottoned on to the market and exported directly.

Apparently, wealthy Chinese women see formula milk as a status symbol because they're not having to behave like the peasants.

I'm come across the "breast mafia" before.

So have I. They made my DIL's life wretched after she had GS. She developed kidney stones in the late stages of pregnancy and as soon as baby was born she was taken for urgent surgery. Due to the intravenous pain killers she had post op she was advised to delay breastfeeding. By the time she was off that it was too late to introduce breastfeeding. But people judged without knowing the facts.

Callistemon

growstuff

There are about 3 million millionaires in China, so there's a big market for good quality goods.

You'd think they could have sorted out the problems with baby milk in China by now though.

There were some problems with contaminated formula. I don't know whether that's been sorted. However, all Western foodstuffs have snob value in China, so are in much demand.

Apparently, wealthy Chinese women see formula milk as a status symbol because they're not having to behave like the peasants.

That's exactly the problem growstuff

Ooops sorry messed that up .

The first paragraph should have been a quote from growstuff ....apologies.

growstuff

Firecracker123

My observation is that it is young women who are mostly overweight/ obese, teenage boys and young men are mostly slim with legs like drainpipes in skinny jeans whereas some of the teenage girls and young women have legs that can only be described as tree trunks. I think it's becoming the norm and instead of dressing to disguise their bad points ie legs bums and bellies they seem to wear clingy clothes oblivious to what they look like lol.

They don't look like that where I live. Have you tried a trip to Barnard Castle recently?

PS. It's the middle aged and older people who are the fatties, so maybe bread and dripping and home made puds with mothers who spent their time being good housewives didn't do that much good.

I think it's all ages near here.

I know someone who still loves bread and dripping, he's still very thin.

It's not plain home-cooked food - it's the hidden ingredients in junk food.
I think more people drink at home too; we never had wine at home when I was young and it was never sold in supermarkets.

Asians have always tended to be slim but, since the introduction of Western junk food chains, there is more of a weight problem in some countries now and rising diabetes.