Obesity linked to poverty

Sparkling

It cost less to eat healthily than junk food, but it does take planning and time. I am now in the overweight category.

Not necessarily. One of the cheapest food of all is pasta, which provides calories and fills hungry tummies, but it's not very nutritious and causes glucose spikes. The nutritious additions such as sauce, cheese and meat cost more.

Been there, done it. I've had to feed my family on a just a few pounds a week. My children got the healthy veggies, fruit and protein. I survived on the pasta - and it didn't do me much good.

The idea that healthy food is always cheaper is a myth.

So why are you overweight Sparkling? Don't you think that the people that others are so fond of criticising for not knowing how to cook and/or being lazy maybe have the same reasons?

Bananas make some people's mouths itch.

I'm sure I read somewhere that they give off some kind of gas (?)
That's why they have to be kept away from other fruit.

Oops! Sorry. I'm meandering.

kissngate

@growstuff. Dont tarnish everyone in the overweight category with eating the wrong food. Never eaten crisps, always disliked fizzy drinks, never had sugar in tea or coffee, and as for burgers the smell makes me heave, but I'm classed on the bmi scale as overweight. I do plenty of exercise but age, genes, medication all contribute to a slower metabolism as we get older. Dont presume we all sit there stuffing our faces with garbage.

I'm not, but people on this thread seem to think that's why people are overweight, but they're always "other" people not "them" - they, of course, have perfectly valid reasons for being overweight.

Scroll back and you'll see what I mean. It's usually young people or lazy parents, who allegedly can't cook - never them, but they're in the biggest group of overweight people.

I like fish finger sandwiches with no butter but with ketchup and am not too fat.
I make soup from veg, oXO and olive oil with quite a lot of pepper in it.

MissAdventure

Bananas make some people's mouths itch.

I'm sure I read somewhere that they give off some kind of gas (?)
That's why they have to be kept away from other fruit.

I had onions and garlic this evening and I am slightly itchy but also giving off a lot of gas

Sorry about that, tmi
I shall log off now

Ps a banana will help other fruit to ripen.

Eating peas when shelling them gives me an itchy throat.

Thanks for sharing gillybob; I've jotted that down. The family won't know what's hit 'em!

I've got a lot of unripened tomatoes, will bananas help them to ripen up?

You can put very ripe bananas on a garden wall and butterflies will flock to them!

Probably because you don't eat more of them than your body needs.

There's so much mumbo jumbo written about good and bad foods. Nearly all foods are good because the body needs calories. Without them, we'd die. The trouble is that many people eat too much. We have a very wonky view of food and don't always eat because we're hungry.

The other real problem is that it's possible to be overweight but malnourished, if the food we eat doesn't contain a range of nutrients. That's why it makes sense to cut out the empty calories, but they're not going to kill you.

Nobody's really addressed the fact that people in more deprived areas are likely to be 11% more overweight than average. (Sorry, I could only find an up-to-date map for Public Health England - I expect there are maps for Scotland, Wales and NI.)

PS. The comment was to Alexa.

Isn't it the cycle of deprivation? Bottle fed baby, sweets as treats, sugary cereals, burgers and high salt foods that by the time these children are grown up they have no desire to eat fruit and vegetables. They just don't like them.
Then when they become parents they continue the cycle.

Grammaretto

Isn't it the cycle of deprivation? Bottle fed baby, sweets as treats, sugary cereals, burgers and high salt foods that by the time these children are grown up they have no desire to eat fruit and vegetables. They just don't like them.
Then when they become parents they continue the cycle.

Well that's lovely, isn't it?

Bottle fed baby

Shocking

Ruined for life

Actually there are some women who would love to be able to breast feed and are unable to for various reasons

I don't honestly believe that bottle feeding is the road to obesity

When I was born in the 60s it was quite the norm to bottle feed

Interesting article here

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25629934

It shouldn’t be the ‘norm’ to bottle feed though should it? And rather than pick on one point look at the rest of the post. There is a valid point being made.

This is exactly the problem with debate on here. People pick up on one point and either take it personally or use it as a stick to beat the poster.

MissAdventure, I didn’t notice anyone answering your question about obesity in the older generation. I may have missed it.
Do you think alcohol could be to blame?

Are babies in deprived areas more likely to be bottle fed?

Are these same children more likely to be given sweets as treats and fed sugary cereals, burgers and salty foods? How does salty food make people put on weight anyway?

That sounds to me as though you're suggesting there's some kind of underclass which feeds their children rubbish food, whereas wealthier people feed their children fruit and veg.

If that's true, why does knowledge about nutrition have anything to do with wealth?

The weight gain throughout life and a connection with alcohol sounds plausible, but do the less wealthy drink more?

Dont the older generation drink much more than the younger generation, that may explain the obesity in the older generation.

I did suggest that in my post Galaxy ?????.

Has anyone mentioned portion sizes? Since lockdown I have been using excess milk to make a rice pudding. Like Mum used to. We polish off the whole rice pudding in one sitting (2 of us). Delicious, but that pudding would have been stretched to 4 of us in my childhood.

Sorry pamela. Cheers

Alcohol consumption possibly does explain quite a lot of adult obesity. Looking at the map of overweight/obesity prevalence, do people in the darkest red areas drink more? Is alcohol consumption higher in more deprived areas?

Furret

It shouldn’t be the ‘norm’ to bottle feed though should it? And rather than pick on one point look at the rest of the post. There is a valid point being made.

This is exactly the problem with debate on here. People pick up on one point and either take it personally or use it as a stick to beat the poster.

It certainly is the norm for some women to bottle feed. And as the article states we should stop haranguing women who choose to bottle feed. We don't know their story.

Also there was no valid point being made in the rest of the post

As growstuff has rightly pointed out the most obese amongst us are are of more mature years. Possibly the age of many of us here.

So were they all part of some deprived upbringing being bottle fed and not eating vegetables?

The latter point is interesting, My youngest two hated vegetables. I did my best, concealing, cajoling, bribing. No good. Not one vegetable passed my son's lips

He's now 28, is vegetarian and eats his greens with gusto.

I don't like the suggestion that there is a group of people who are basically depriving their children of good foods when it's clearly not the case.