The Vaccine

Why do all conspiracy theorists say "do your research"?

suziewoozie

anewstart

Never in a million years.

Am totally anti vax and never had my children vaccinated, they're now healthy adults with their own children who also, have not been vaccinated.

I come from a 'medical' family.

Well you clearly know nothing about statistics.

Hopefully I'm never treated by any members of this 'medical family.

growstuff

suziewoozie

anewstart

Never in a million years.

Am totally anti vax and never had my children vaccinated, they're now healthy adults with their own children who also, have not been vaccinated.

I come from a 'medical' family.

Well you clearly know nothing about statistics.

Hopefully I'm never treated by any members of this 'medical family.

Harold Shipman came from a medical family as did Andrew Wakefield. Their contribution to the world of medicine has been truly unforgettable .

So did Dr Crippen!

Why are anti-vaxxers so persistent in trying to foist their views and myths on others?

Well, I'm certainly going to have it; it would be silly not to. The sooner I can resume my 'normal' life the better. Better for both my physical and mental health.

I’m scared because I have to be immuno-surpressed and have loads of meds just to stop my immune system attacking me. So I’m wondering if the vaccine will be selective enough to just fight the virus without boosting my immune system to cause other kinds of damage

HAZBEEN could you please tell me about the antibiotic allergy that means poeople couldn't have a certain vaccine ?
If this is the case it's importsnt for me to know ! Thank you.

The reason why the anti-vaxxers' children grow up healthy is that sufficient children in their age cohort have been vaccinated against diseases they might otherwise have shared. This is known as 'herd immunity'. I, for one, am very glad that my children and grandchildren have been spared the ordeal of measles and whooping cough we routinely had to face 70 years ago.

Coco51

I’m scared because I have to be immuno-surpressed and have loads of meds just to stop my immune system attacking me. So I’m wondering if the vaccine will be selective enough to just fight the virus without boosting my immune system to cause other kinds of damage

I expect your doctor will be able to make a recommendation depending on your exact circumstances Coco51. Whatever people say, it won't be compulsory and people will have medical exception if they need it.

Most certainly will I have it when offered. Wish the shingles one had been available before I was subjected to suffering shingles.

annodomini

The reason why the anti-vaxxers' children grow up healthy is that sufficient children in their age cohort have been vaccinated against diseases they might otherwise have shared. This is known as 'herd immunity'. I, for one, am very glad that my children and grandchildren have been spared the ordeal of measles and whooping cough we routinely had to face 70 years ago.

It’s freeloading isn’t it, not to put too fine a point on it. NB that comment only applies to people who choose not to have vaccinations

suziewoozie

annodomini

The reason why the anti-vaxxers' children grow up healthy is that sufficient children in their age cohort have been vaccinated against diseases they might otherwise have shared. This is known as 'herd immunity'. I, for one, am very glad that my children and grandchildren have been spared the ordeal of measles and whooping cough we routinely had to face 70 years ago.

It’s freeloading isn’t it, not to put too fine a point on it. NB that comment only applies to people who choose not to have vaccinations

To a degree it is, but it won’t be entirely eradicated, so the freeloaders will be at the high risk end and if they want to avoid death or live without the long term effects, they are going to have to continue to adjust their life style accordingly.

The UK lost its WHO "measles-free" status last year because so many parents have opted not to have their children vaccinated. Measles is one of the most contagious viruses around and can lead to serious long-term health effects.

anewstart and other anti-vaxers can thank the rest of us for keeping them and their family safe and healthy thus far.
Tempted to quote another thread about karma but.....

I'm needle phobic but have to have blood taken every few months for hyperthyroidism but get so worked up about the needle I nearly faint by the time I have it. But don't want covid so will have to have it I suppose.

Sawsage2

I'm needle phobic but have to have blood taken every few months for hyperthyroidism but get so worked up about the needle I nearly faint by the time I have it. But don't want covid so will have to have it I suppose.

You’d have a lot more needles inserted if you got Covid so it’s probably a fair swap - good luck when the time comes.

I think it should be illegal not to have the vaccine!! Unless, of course, there are medical reasons

It’s blatantly untrue that anti-vaxxers children always grow up healthy and remain healthy as adults. The measles outbreak a few years ago demonstrated that, with blindness and hearing loss being some of the consequences. I know several families who have lost members to meningitis as well, and a man who became infertile as a result of having mumps in his late teens. Threads like this infuriate me. Research reputable sources for goodness sake not conspiracy theories.

Not everyone will be allowed to have the vaccine so the more who are willing to have it the better for those who, for medical reasons, may not be able to.

I am not a conspiracy theorist I have done my research and choose not to have it thank you very much if you want to go ahead and have it then that's your choice just as I have a choice

Gwenisgreat1

I think it should be illegal not to have the vaccine!! Unless, of course, there are medical reasons

I don't agree. Until it's established whether the vaccine prevents transmission, the only people who will suffer are those refusing to be vaccinated - and the people who will have to treat them, if they need an NHS bed.

We still don't know whether "herd immunity" can be achieved because it could be that people will still be contagious.

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Ziggy1914

I am not a conspiracy theorist I have done my research and choose not to have it thank you very much if you want to go ahead and have it then that's your choice just as I have a choice

Indeed! So why tell people to do their research? And why try to persuade people that you are right? It's none of your business.

Yes, willingly. My mother had a hospital/medical phobia and refused to let me have polio and TB jabs as a child. When she was elderly and of course refusing a flu jab, she caught influenza and it turned into pneumonia, which she survived by the skin of her teeth,
She has left me with a slight hospital phobia but I have regular flu jabs, even though a couple have caused reactions, better that than full blown pneumonia.
The scientists etc all working on this vaccine are true heroes and the conspiracy nuts completely bewilder me. What good has come out of so many countries brought to their knees?

I'm 59, and fall into the moderate risk group due to multiple pre existing conditions. In addition, I take 21 different medications every day.

I think It unlikely that I would take up a vaccine, for a number of reasons;

1) I'm already a walking chemical factory, as far as I'm aware no testing has taken place within the older age groups who are taking multiple drugs. I do not plan to become a guinea pig.

2) New vaccines are usually the subject of several years of testing, not 10 months from start to finnish

3) Apparently, a very high proportion of medical professionals will NOT have the vaccination

I'm also feeling very vulnerable listening to public opinion on Radio 2. I feel so strongly that I'm panicked about the possibility of being forced to have the vaccinations (don't forget it's twice that you will be vaccinated). And I f the vaccine is not compulsory, it sounds as though those of us who are not vaccinated will be the victims of systemic discrimination. It terrifies me to be honest.