The Vaccine

suziewoozie

annodomini

The reason why the anti-vaxxers' children grow up healthy is that sufficient children in their age cohort have been vaccinated against diseases they might otherwise have shared. This is known as 'herd immunity'. I, for one, am very glad that my children and grandchildren have been spared the ordeal of measles and whooping cough we routinely had to face 70 years ago.

It’s freeloading isn’t it, not to put too fine a point on it. NB that comment only applies to people who choose not to have vaccinations

To a degree it is, but it won’t be entirely eradicated, so the freeloaders will be at the high risk end and if they want to avoid death or live without the long term effects, they are going to have to continue to adjust their life style accordingly.

annodomini

The reason why the anti-vaxxers' children grow up healthy is that sufficient children in their age cohort have been vaccinated against diseases they might otherwise have shared. This is known as 'herd immunity'. I, for one, am very glad that my children and grandchildren have been spared the ordeal of measles and whooping cough we routinely had to face 70 years ago.

It’s freeloading isn’t it, not to put too fine a point on it. NB that comment only applies to people who choose not to have vaccinations

Most certainly will I have it when offered. Wish the shingles one had been available before I was subjected to suffering shingles.

Coco51

I’m scared because I have to be immuno-surpressed and have loads of meds just to stop my immune system attacking me. So I’m wondering if the vaccine will be selective enough to just fight the virus without boosting my immune system to cause other kinds of damage

I expect your doctor will be able to make a recommendation depending on your exact circumstances Coco51. Whatever people say, it won't be compulsory and people will have medical exception if they need it.

The reason why the anti-vaxxers' children grow up healthy is that sufficient children in their age cohort have been vaccinated against diseases they might otherwise have shared. This is known as 'herd immunity'. I, for one, am very glad that my children and grandchildren have been spared the ordeal of measles and whooping cough we routinely had to face 70 years ago.

HAZBEEN could you please tell me about the antibiotic allergy that means poeople couldn't have a certain vaccine ?
If this is the case it's importsnt for me to know ! Thank you.

I’m scared because I have to be immuno-surpressed and have loads of meds just to stop my immune system attacking me. So I’m wondering if the vaccine will be selective enough to just fight the virus without boosting my immune system to cause other kinds of damage

Well, I'm certainly going to have it; it would be silly not to. The sooner I can resume my 'normal' life the better. Better for both my physical and mental health.

So did Dr Crippen!

Why are anti-vaxxers so persistent in trying to foist their views and myths on others?

growstuff

suziewoozie

anewstart

Never in a million years.

Am totally anti vax and never had my children vaccinated, they're now healthy adults with their own children who also, have not been vaccinated.

I come from a 'medical' family.

Well you clearly know nothing about statistics.

Hopefully I'm never treated by any members of this 'medical family.

Harold Shipman came from a medical family as did Andrew Wakefield. Their contribution to the world of medicine has been truly unforgettable .

suziewoozie

anewstart

Never in a million years.

Am totally anti vax and never had my children vaccinated, they're now healthy adults with their own children who also, have not been vaccinated.

I come from a 'medical' family.

Well you clearly know nothing about statistics.

Hopefully I'm never treated by any members of this 'medical family.

Why do all conspiracy theorists say "do your research"?

I will not be having it done it takes along time for a vaccine to be safe do your research top scientists have been coming forward and doctors saying it alters your DNA

naughtynanny As you've quoted "aluminum" with the American spelling, and not "aluminium", I guess you're quoting a US conspiracy theory. You mention Google - surely you don't believe everything on there?

I feel I will be having a vaccination. I do have heart disease and diabetic. My mum who is aged 89 is quite fit for her age albeit arthritis- osteoporosis but still mobile with a stick plus a diagnosis of mild dementia I feel should also have the vaccination.I am the eldest of 5 siblings. One of my brothers and one of my sisters who are both over 60 are against the vaccination. My younger brother also over 60 I am not sure what he thinks. However let’s say if they don’t have the vaccination chances are they will not be allowed into the football stadium (we are all Tottenham supporters lol ) My other sister also over 60 says she will have it as she wants to travel to New Zealand to see her grandchildren. I do believe also we will have to have some form of documentation/ stamped passport to confirm we have had a vaccination as there may be some venues that will require this information / or for travelling abroad etc.

Sometimes I feel that Nowadays people have forgotten how lucky we are not to be plagued by those old diseases of polio, smallpox, diphtheria, measles, rubella, whooping cough, chicken pox etc etc etc.... we have anti-vaxxers who don't want to know of past horrors.”

I read how people lived before many deadly viruses- people really did have it tough! So many people and children dropping down dead - but then vaccinations appeared and people’s lives greatly improved.

I will be having it.

Most definitely let’s get on with it

Yes! So will Mr Apple! We can't wait! And I cannot see any of us being asked which vaccine we would prefer - far too complicated - and any safe effective vaccine will free us to get back to something like normal. Bring it on.............!

anewstart

Never in a million years.

Am totally anti vax and never had my children vaccinated, they're now healthy adults with their own children who also, have not been vaccinated.

I come from a 'medical' family.

Well you clearly know nothing about statistics.

My daughter who is 29 has a friend who is immunocompromised. He is having to undergo two lots of chemotherapy this December and neither he nor his partner will be able to leave their house at all for months. If he catches Covid-19 - he has been told by medics - he will die. He cannot have the vaccine.

If others refuse to have the vaccine and herd immunity cannot be reached then young people (and older folks) like my daughter's friend will have their lives severely constricted.

It is worth considering cases like this when the risk to the general healthy population is small to negligible.

Never in a million years.

Am totally anti vax and never had my children vaccinated, they're now healthy adults with their own children who also, have not been vaccinated.

I come from a 'medical' family.

I’ve looked for the answer to this and can’t find it - does anyone know - the AZ vaccine was 90% effective with the one and a half dosage and only 60% effective with the two full doses. Although the number of subjects in the first group was about one third (2700) of those in the second group (8000+) the results for both groups were statistically significant. My question is - if we are offered the AZ one, will it be the more effective dose?

The efficacy of vaccination is dependent upon a high take up by the population. I think that, unless a person has a condition which makes them unsuitable, having the vaccine is a matter of necessity to protect everyone. It will be a time to “stick our courage to the sticking post” and get on with it!

DH and I will be having it as soon as we can no question!! I cannot believe some posts on here and certainly cannot believe the conspiracy theorists who spread such utter nonsense. Really?! alegrias2 totally agree with your posts!

I shall definitely have it!

Alegrias2 You are doing a good job, keep it up ?