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annsixty Sun 22-Nov-20 11:39:05

Has everyone made up their minds about the vaccine yet?

I an 83 so in what is possibly the second group to be offered it.
I just cannot make a decision about whether or not to accept.

I have always had the flue jab, had pneumonia one and shingles, so why am I so undecided about this?

I have spoken to several friends in the same age group and they are all eager to go ahead, in fact one is champing at the bit and says he will be first in the queue.

Any thoughts ?

growstuff Tue 24-Nov-20 10:10:37

VRH1

No. The Swine Flu vaccine made me very, very ill. I have auto-immune issues so react differently. Also, I think it’s an unethical practice. No one is ever invited to read the contraindications sheet from the vaccine manufacturer before being stabbed with something that alters your body’s immune response. It’s law that every box of drugs you get from your GP has a drug advice sheet. One of the vaccine companies applied to Brussels to request not to have any vaccine injury claims made against them. That speaks volumes to me. Brussels refused. Unfortunately, we’re coming out of the EU next month. With is Cabinet off Clowns in charge of the country, what will they do?

Do you mean Brussels (the seat of the EU) or Brussels (the capital of Belgium)?

My understanding is that AstraZeneca asked Belgium to be responsible for liability claims for its vaccine. It's not normal practice for countries to accept liability, but the drugs companies themselves. People will still be able to sue the drugs companies for vaccine injuries.

Nannan2 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:09:23

We are all bloody nervous its not been before has it? But doesn't the risk of catching covid 19 make you nervous?!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:08:36

I think some people need to think what they would do if they get cancer and need chemotherapy. That really is a hammer of a drug, far, far worse affects than flu or this Oxford drug.

Would you turn down chemo if it means saving your life?

Would you turn down covid vaccine if it means saving your life.

Come on people be more rational!

Although I think the vast majority are acting intelligently and will get vaccinated.

alisonsmith4 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:07:54

I think we simply must have whichever vaccine is available to us. We are so lucky in this country to have free healthcare and a vaccine that is not dependent on our bank balance. Having travelled in India and South Africa I know how grateful the people there would be to have these opportunities. My son is a doctor and his wife is a nurse - both in the front line and I do not want to make life any more difficult for them than it already is. Time to get our big girl pants on and get it done! Stay safe everyone.

BlueBelle Tue 24-Nov-20 10:07:53

It’s very interesting to see the generational differences
on here the majority of people are totally trusting and raring to go, other forums I m on with much younger people 20/30/40/50 s are way way more doubting and far less wanting to accept the vaccine at face value much more suspicious and I can’t count the amount that have said no way am I having that in my children etc etc

Myself, I feel more trusting in the Oxford vaccine not because it’s ‘British’ but because it’s using a tried and tested natural method whilst the other two are using chemicals, it’s cheap, they are using it not for profit (a huge relief and a huge attraction to me), and it needs no special freezing ...but I suppose we ll have no choice ...if we did I might accept having a jab but not so keen at the moment on the idea of the other two

Nannan2 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:07:42

Ì think your DNA is in your actual making at time of conception isnt it? How can a vaccine change that??

songstress60 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:05:43

I have reservations about this as it is too new! I have the flu jab and shingles, but I am nervous about this jab.

Chris5640 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:04:48

The Oxford one seems to give 90% immunity when given in two doses. It is non profit making and easier to store as it does not need the extreme low temperature of some of the alternatives. We are both over 70 and my husband was in the shielding group. We will have the vaccine as soon as we are offered it.

kaycee Tue 24-Nov-20 10:03:34

My friend's son is on the AstraZeneca team and he and his colleagues have been working tirelessly to produce this vaccine. They have given up spending time with their families and have at times been on the point of exhaustion. I bet they are chuffed to bits that there are even discussions going on about will we / won't we. By protecting ourselves we will be protecting the NHS and those waiting for other NHS services.

hulahoop Tue 24-Nov-20 10:03:18

It's not hard to give injections lots of people do it themselves or family member gives it .I will definitely have the jab but feel the roll out won't go as smoothly as they say has with lockdown it will start late .

cc Tue 24-Nov-20 10:01:57

I can't understand why anybody without a medical training would imagine that they know better than the professionals who have produced these vaccines. The chances of problems such as side effects will have been considered.
I am amazed by the short-sightedness of the anti vacc lobby, particularly those who claim to have medical knowledge.

Nannan2 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:01:29

Which antibiotic was it HAZBEEN? I found out at xmas when i was so ill im allergic to one of them(quite a strong one) but my g.p. was trying to prescribe me it again last week.! I checked with chemist then had to get a different script from g.p. instead!

ReadyMeals Tue 24-Nov-20 10:01:19

Definitely! That is if I can safely get to where they are being offered. We don't have any transport and a some point during the first lockdown my back and hip "went" and I can't walk as far as my GP. I'd get a cab, but I don't want to be in the small space of a car with a stranger until after the vaccination.

Tweedle24 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:01:11

I love all these people who come up with statements like “There has not been enough testing”. They presumably are on the research teams themselves or, at least, are highly qualified virologists.

gillgran Tue 24-Nov-20 10:01:04

Yes, DH & I will have the vaccine when offered.

I quite like Jonathan Van-Tam, (is he the deputy-health-advisor?). He said that he's told his Mum to be ready to go as soon as she is called! That's good enough for me!!

henetha Tue 24-Nov-20 10:00:54

I'm the same age as you, annsixty and will definitely accept the jab when it's offfered. I would prefer the Oxford one but don't imagine we will get a choice. Hopefully life can get back to almost normal by next summer, more or less.

Suze56 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:00:44

Having seen the impact of Covid on people who were previously healthy, the enormous number of deaths which are still going up daily and the months without being able to visit and hug family and friends, I will definitely have the vaccine as soon as I am eligible.

Frankie51 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:00:35

Yes definitely, I want my life back, I want to travel to see my son and grandchildren in Canada again. I want to spend time with my grandchildren in England in a tier 3 region. Fed up of Skyping. I want to return to my voluntary tour guide role, visit friends etc. I get the flu jab every year, and that's modified every year, yet we accept these. The vaccine is not going to be released unless its safe. Cannot understand friends who say they won't take it as they think it's not safe, yet there's a pandemic which really isn't safe? Would you rather have coronavirus or a jab? If a large proportion of the population refuse to be vaccinated the virus will still go round, maybe mutating, and the restrictions will go on and on. This virus can be stopped. Don't listen to scaremongering.

growstuff Tue 24-Nov-20 10:00:02

Ziggy1914

No I will not be having it full stop it's not been around long enough for full checks if you do a bit of research top scientists have been coming forward and saying what's in it alters your DNA it's my choice so please respect that

Which top scientists have been claiming it alters your DNA?

VRH1 Tue 24-Nov-20 09:59:24

No. The Swine Flu vaccine made me very, very ill. I have auto-immune issues so react differently. Also, I think it’s an unethical practice. No one is ever invited to read the contraindications sheet from the vaccine manufacturer before being stabbed with something that alters your body’s immune response. It’s law that every box of drugs you get from your GP has a drug advice sheet. One of the vaccine companies applied to Brussels to request not to have any vaccine injury claims made against them. That speaks volumes to me. Brussels refused. Unfortunately, we’re coming out of the EU next month. With is Cabinet off Clowns in charge of the country, what will they do?

Gingergirl Tue 24-Nov-20 09:57:25

Hmm it’s my understanding that the vaccines are all different...but all have been rushed through. The basic aim is to promote the production of antibodies...people confuse that with a lot of other things.

HootyMcOwlface Tue 24-Nov-20 09:56:50

I hope the tories won’t be outsourcing the huge supply of needles and syringes that will be needed to their mates/wives of MPs like they have with PPE supplies and testing etc.

Ampersand Tue 24-Nov-20 09:56:31

I am participating in Phase 3 trial at St Thomas' in London for the Novovax vaccine being developed by an American Biotech company.
As it is not expected to publish it's results until spring 2021 it may be at an earlier date I am in an age group offered a vaccine from another manufacturer. If this happens my details in the trial will be unblinded to see if I received the trial vaccine or a placebo. If I've had the vaccine & it's proven to be effective I'll be delighted and if I only received a placebo I will gratefully accept any vaccine I am offered -The world needs this

Soozikinzi Tue 24-Nov-20 09:56:16

I will be first in the queue and I volunteered for the trial although I wasn’t called . I’m 60 and fairly well so in a way I think I should because not everyone will be able to take it . At 83 I can understand your hesitation though x keep safe x

wifey2003 Tue 24-Nov-20 09:55:53

Absolutely would have the jab.....waiting for my call for the flu jab too....