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The Vaccine

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annsixty Sun 22-Nov-20 11:39:05

Has everyone made up their minds about the vaccine yet?

I an 83 so in what is possibly the second group to be offered it.
I just cannot make a decision about whether or not to accept.

I have always had the flue jab, had pneumonia one and shingles, so why am I so undecided about this?

I have spoken to several friends in the same age group and they are all eager to go ahead, in fact one is champing at the bit and says he will be first in the queue.

Any thoughts ?

Nannan2 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:01:29

Which antibiotic was it HAZBEEN? I found out at xmas when i was so ill im allergic to one of them(quite a strong one) but my g.p. was trying to prescribe me it again last week.! I checked with chemist then had to get a different script from g.p. instead!

cc Tue 24-Nov-20 10:01:57

I can't understand why anybody without a medical training would imagine that they know better than the professionals who have produced these vaccines. The chances of problems such as side effects will have been considered.
I am amazed by the short-sightedness of the anti vacc lobby, particularly those who claim to have medical knowledge.

hulahoop Tue 24-Nov-20 10:03:18

It's not hard to give injections lots of people do it themselves or family member gives it .I will definitely have the jab but feel the roll out won't go as smoothly as they say has with lockdown it will start late .

kaycee Tue 24-Nov-20 10:03:34

My friend's son is on the AstraZeneca team and he and his colleagues have been working tirelessly to produce this vaccine. They have given up spending time with their families and have at times been on the point of exhaustion. I bet they are chuffed to bits that there are even discussions going on about will we / won't we. By protecting ourselves we will be protecting the NHS and those waiting for other NHS services.

Chris5640 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:04:48

The Oxford one seems to give 90% immunity when given in two doses. It is non profit making and easier to store as it does not need the extreme low temperature of some of the alternatives. We are both over 70 and my husband was in the shielding group. We will have the vaccine as soon as we are offered it.

songstress60 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:05:43

I have reservations about this as it is too new! I have the flu jab and shingles, but I am nervous about this jab.

Nannan2 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:07:42

Ì think your DNA is in your actual making at time of conception isnt it? How can a vaccine change that??

BlueBelle Tue 24-Nov-20 10:07:53

It’s very interesting to see the generational differences
on here the majority of people are totally trusting and raring to go, other forums I m on with much younger people 20/30/40/50 s are way way more doubting and far less wanting to accept the vaccine at face value much more suspicious and I can’t count the amount that have said no way am I having that in my children etc etc

Myself, I feel more trusting in the Oxford vaccine not because it’s ‘British’ but because it’s using a tried and tested natural method whilst the other two are using chemicals, it’s cheap, they are using it not for profit (a huge relief and a huge attraction to me), and it needs no special freezing ...but I suppose we ll have no choice ...if we did I might accept having a jab but not so keen at the moment on the idea of the other two

alisonsmith4 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:07:54

I think we simply must have whichever vaccine is available to us. We are so lucky in this country to have free healthcare and a vaccine that is not dependent on our bank balance. Having travelled in India and South Africa I know how grateful the people there would be to have these opportunities. My son is a doctor and his wife is a nurse - both in the front line and I do not want to make life any more difficult for them than it already is. Time to get our big girl pants on and get it done! Stay safe everyone.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:08:36

I think some people need to think what they would do if they get cancer and need chemotherapy. That really is a hammer of a drug, far, far worse affects than flu or this Oxford drug.

Would you turn down chemo if it means saving your life?

Would you turn down covid vaccine if it means saving your life.

Come on people be more rational!

Although I think the vast majority are acting intelligently and will get vaccinated.

Nannan2 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:09:23

We are all bloody nervous its not been before has it? But doesn't the risk of catching covid 19 make you nervous?!

growstuff Tue 24-Nov-20 10:10:37

VRH1

No. The Swine Flu vaccine made me very, very ill. I have auto-immune issues so react differently. Also, I think it’s an unethical practice. No one is ever invited to read the contraindications sheet from the vaccine manufacturer before being stabbed with something that alters your body’s immune response. It’s law that every box of drugs you get from your GP has a drug advice sheet. One of the vaccine companies applied to Brussels to request not to have any vaccine injury claims made against them. That speaks volumes to me. Brussels refused. Unfortunately, we’re coming out of the EU next month. With is Cabinet off Clowns in charge of the country, what will they do?

Do you mean Brussels (the seat of the EU) or Brussels (the capital of Belgium)?

My understanding is that AstraZeneca asked Belgium to be responsible for liability claims for its vaccine. It's not normal practice for countries to accept liability, but the drugs companies themselves. People will still be able to sue the drugs companies for vaccine injuries.

LinkyPinky Tue 24-Nov-20 10:11:34

Is there any data on how long the vaccine protects you for, does anyone know? Will we be invited to have it every year, like the flu jab?

growstuff Tue 24-Nov-20 10:12:36

BlueBelle

It’s very interesting to see the generational differences
on here the majority of people are totally trusting and raring to go, other forums I m on with much younger people 20/30/40/50 s are way way more doubting and far less wanting to accept the vaccine at face value much more suspicious and I can’t count the amount that have said no way am I having that in my children etc etc

Myself, I feel more trusting in the Oxford vaccine not because it’s ‘British’ but because it’s using a tried and tested natural method whilst the other two are using chemicals, it’s cheap, they are using it not for profit (a huge relief and a huge attraction to me), and it needs no special freezing ...but I suppose we ll have no choice ...if we did I might accept having a jab but not so keen at the moment on the idea of the other two

That's fine because anybody under 50 is probably going to have a long wait before being offered the vaccine anyway.

SunRising Tue 24-Nov-20 10:12:46

I am 67 and have had flu every year since I was able to. Listening to many Doctors on the TV saying they have been part of trials gives me much confidence. I have no medical training so I am quite happy to put my faith in them. I want my life back and do not want to be worried if there is an outbreak that I may get a full blown infection. Those that have had the vaccine will be going about their life and others will have to be isolating I imagine. Lets face it its good for us but its also good for the whole community. I keep thinking of the nearly 60,000 people who sat down to christmas dinner last year and will not be here this year. I guess they would have taken a vaccine if it was offered? My anxiety is that they forget me!!!!!!!

4allweknow Tue 24-Nov-20 10:13:54

Annesixty I had all the vaccines you mention plus a load more demanded for trips to foreign countries. If smallpox was still rife would you be hesitant to have the vaccine. Did you succumb to having the polio one. Covid-19 will not disappear, viruses don't work like that just because there is a vaccine. Why nit try to get professional advice on the subject. I have an 89 year old friend who can't wait for it to allow her visitors, to go out to shops, have a coffee with friends and see her son who lives in another country. She calls it, having her life back.

growstuff Tue 24-Nov-20 10:13:56

LinkyPinky

Is there any data on how long the vaccine protects you for, does anyone know? Will we be invited to have it every year, like the flu jab?

There is no data yet. There can't be. We need to wait until people have been vaccinated and some have been tested for immunity at intervals.

Nannan2 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:15:34

Also i think we should all still be wary of throwing caution to the winds and living life just like before because even if we have the vaccine- we should all still not go back to a completely carefree life as before- folk have jabs yet still pick up different strains of things(my son is like that with flu jab each year) so lets just still be a little more 'mindful' of coughing, sneezing, handwashing, touching everything/everywhere etc. in future.

growstuff Tue 24-Nov-20 10:19:17

That's my big concern Nannan. It hasn't been established yet whether the vaccine stops transmission. It doesn't stop people from being infected, but stops damage to vital organs, which is what kills people. It could be that people become infected and transmit it to somebody else, although they will hopefully not suffer badly.

Riggie Tue 24-Nov-20 10:20:09

I suspect that we won't be given a choice over which vaccine apartnfrom things like allergies etc; Im sure there will be a decision on who gets which made by people who are more expert in these matters than I am.

rowanflower0 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:22:01

Yes - ASAP

Pippet Tue 24-Nov-20 10:22:22

Like a shot. Pardon the pun. I have 100 per cent confidence in the development and ratification process. I will be there to take my turn as soon as I possibly can. Just cannot wait for my mom to have her jab and to give her the biggest of hugs. Hopefully happier and safer times ahead. The virus will stick around for ages so let’s get protected and in the meantime stay safe and adhere to rules xxx

SunRising Tue 24-Nov-20 10:23:49

I agree Riggie its not going to be a pick and mix. We must trust those better qualified than us and stop over thinking this. I feel happy to see some light at the end of the tunnel and how long long the immunity lasts etc are questions still to be answered in the future. If it means a flu type jab each year so be it is my thought.

bobbydog24 Tue 24-Nov-20 10:24:33

I’m type 2 diabetic so classed as vulnerable. I can’t wait for the vaccine. Every drug we take has potential side affects to certain people and most times they don’t know until they’ve taken it so this new vaccine isn’t any more risky than any other. I can’t thank the volunteers enough for trialling the vaccine for our benefit.

GrammarGrandma Tue 24-Nov-20 10:24:49

Of course. Whichever one I'm offered, as soon as I'm offered it.