Vaccines - should they be mandatory?

suziewoozie

I hope you didn’t think I was mocking GG I respect anyone who has a thought through rational position on issues underpinned by sound philosophical foundation rather than the knee jerk response just based on the colour of your football scarf.

Not you suziewoozie

Casdon

Provided enough notice is given that the law will change, and that it is for very clearly specified frontline health and social care roles where staff who are unvaccinated are putting the lives of their patients/clients at risk I think it is the right thing to do. Support to help those staff who do not want the vaccine should be offered to help them find alternative non frontline roles.

Yes - this.

Provided enough notice is given that the law will change, and that it is for very clearly specified frontline health and social care roles where staff who are unvaccinated are putting the lives of their patients/clients at risk I think it is the right thing to do. Support to help those staff who do not want the vaccine should be offered to help them find alternative non frontline roles.

I hope you didn’t think I was mocking GG I respect anyone who has a thought through rational position on issues underpinned by sound philosophical foundation rather than the knee jerk response just based on the colour of your football scarf.

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

I can see why health care workers should have to be vaccinated, but it doesn’t sit well with me.

A true libertarian gg13 ?.

Mock away, but the current government is eroding our civil liberties Bill by Bill, something that as a Conservative I find abhorrent.

suziewoozie

I don’t want to live in a society where a low paid worker is forced out of work because she doesn’t want the vaccine ( no matter how irrational that may be) and then wouldn’t even be able to claim UC because she’s made herself voluntarily unemployed.

That’s a scenario which may arise. Care homes and care at home agencies struggle to find staff as it is.

I would have reservations about making it compulsory for everyone, to be honest. If an employer wishes to state that it is compulsory for new employees to have been vaccinated, that's one thing, but I'm not sure how that could be applied retrospectively. As has been stated by other posters, there are many roles which already have very specific requirements when it comes to health, and people know this when they apply for these roles.

I don’t want to live in a society where a low paid worker is forced out of work because she doesn’t want the vaccine ( no matter how irrational that may be) and then wouldn’t even be able to claim UC because she’s made herself voluntarily unemployed.

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

I can see why health care workers should have to be vaccinated, but it doesn’t sit well with me.

A true libertarian gg13 ?.

Which is why imo she is a real asset on GN ?

GrannyGravy13

I can see why health care workers should have to be vaccinated, but it doesn’t sit well with me.

A true libertarian gg13 ?.

I can see why health care workers should have to be vaccinated, but it doesn’t sit well with me.

My problem is with making them mandatory for those in employment already. That’s a different issue and legally more problematic. However, as this issue will tale a while to be legislated on, employers can continue to work with those individuals who are still unvaccinated in the hope of persuading them to change their minds.

I had to do a LOT of medical tests to be able to get a US green card. Ironic really. Going from the UK with a good (at the time) public health service, to the US with expensive and often unattainable health care. I would have thought it would be more likely to be a US citizen with poor health than a Brit.

I don't think they should be mandatory but anyone who decides not have it should be aware that by not doing so, limitations may be placed on their work and social lives.

When I first started teaching there were health requirements. We had to have chest X-rays to check for TB and have been vaccinated against that some diseases.

This may just have been an Inner London requirement at the time.

If we wanted to work in those schools we had to meet the requirements.

No, it should not be made compulsory, but I think it is quite acceptable to make it compulsory for some roles, such as those in contact with those in medical or social care.

Quite a lot of careers have physical and other qualifications that have to be met before you can enter them. Both DH and DS at one point or another considered careers in the armed services, but discovered that their eye sight did not meet the required standards. I consider that making the requirement that someone has to have the COVID vaccine, or any other appropriate vaccine before working with vulnerable people, is no different.