Boris has Covid, but is not isolating

Boris Johnston does not have COVID, he has been in contact with Savid, and he is self-isolating.

Since a doubly vaccinated friend of mine recently caught covid I feel a lot less relaxed about the dangers. For this to have happenened just before 'Freedom Day' should be a lesson to us all. The virus is still around and we all need to act responsibly. The rules about isolating should be the same for everyone. There is talk of daily testing etc being available to prevent the necessity of isolation for those whose jobs are in essential services but since Boris and Rishi can work from home I don't think they should qualify. I'm not sure how I feel about having dealings with essential workers who do qualify though.

Meanwhile many companies are suffering staff shortages as a result of people having to isolate. As more things open up this is likely to increase so I'm guessing the rules will change again to prevent empty shelves in supermarkets and the NHS becoming overwhelmed as all the lorry drivers and NHS staff are forced to self isolate to name just two examples. It's no longer just a pandemic but a 'pingdemic'!

I certainly won't be relaxing too much yet. I don't have the app as my phone is too old to support it, so I won't be pinged, but I shall still isolate if I think it necessary if anyone I've seen tests positive, even if the contact was brief. I couldn't live with myself if I thought I was responsible for giving it to someone!

Katek

And this is different….?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57883260

It sort of proves the argument that isolating after double tap is unlikely to be necessary. The pass-on rate is so very low from vaccinated bods to other vaccinated bods .that's why it's so very important for everyone who is able to get vaccinated

Boris Johnson hasn't got Covid. He was pinged because he was in contact with someone who has.

Why does none of this ring alarm bells in any of you? The govt has always done what they want while getting everyone else to jump through hoops. Can you not see how they're watching how compliant and easily manipulated everyone is. You've all taken two jabs and you still can catch it, pass it on and have to isolate or wear masks when they say so. W A K E U P!

Vaccine doesn't kill it or stop you getting it , but gives high level of protection from the antibodies it gives us, enabling us to only get either mild or no symptoms.hope this reassures? x

My four year grandson has been isolating after contact at nursery. Very hard to keep a healthy little boy indoors. Today is his release day!

@Withnail. I voted Tory last time. Won’t be doing the same next time unless they seriously get their act together. At the start of the pandemic I felt a bit sorry for Boris, because after all this was all new, no-one had previous experience of a pandemic and to a certain extent they had to ‘wing it’ from day to day to respond to the rapidly changing landscape. Not so now. Now it’s just out and out incompetence - mixed messages, disastrous policies and horrendous double standards. The problem is, I cant see anyone else worth voting for.

DebbieDevon...I posted the same. People never check before they post and 'them in charge' never check either.

@Kpnuts. I’ve had it twice too. First time back in February just after my first jab. Been double jabbed since April, but tested positive again couple of weeks ago. Had a horrible time with it in February, but symptoms were a lot milder this time around, so I suppose the jabs are working the way they’re supposed to. Interestingly, my GP advises that this time it may not be a new infection. Apparently the virus can ‘hide’ in the gut in people with compromised immune systems - they don’t clear the virus properly and although they’re not infectious, the virus is still present and can resurface. I don’t think there’s any test at the moment that can differentiate between old and new infections - the previous advice seemed to be that if you catch it again three months after the original infection it should be treated as new. Not sure if that advice still holds.

Irrespective of the incorrect thread title ( he doesn't, as far as we know, have covid) the truth is that Johnson yet again thought that the rules did not apply to him, and let 'Honest Bob' Jenrick waffle on to Andrew Marr about some sort of magical isolation/not isolation that was being trialled. Just about the time Jenrick was getting into his ministerial car, it was announced that Johnson would take one for the team after all. Nothing to do with the roar of public outrage of course. The lies continue on Radio 4 this morning when Zadawi was explaining that it really was quite common knowledge, was a system used by TFL, except it isn't. Lie after lie.

I felt a little sorry for Robert Jenrick, who was wheeled onto the Marr show at 9 am yesterday, and worked hard to justify why the top people did not have to isolate, as they were part of pilot scheme.
I was watching on catch-up at ten, and so knew that this had already been changed!

Er - Boris hasn’t got Covid, Sajid Javid has, and they originally said there was no need for his government contacts to isolate because they had all been vaccinated. They’ve now done a U turn and are isolating - as they should. I don’t think the British public can take much more of their double standards.

Unfortunately you can, I had full blown Covid last year, off work three months. I been double jabbed since February and I have tested positive again this week.

from Telegraph this morning, The Prime Minister is under pressure to end the "mad" system as both he and Chancellor Rishi Sunak are in quarantine as close contacts of Health Secretary Sajid Javid, who tested positive for coronavirus on Saturday. So Boris does not have covid and is isolating, please will people read thoroughly the headlines , Boris had covid last year, and yes you can get it again apparently, but why do people have short memories?

Just out of interest,
a) Is there anyone who voted Tory before going to vote Tory again?
b) If yes, why?
c) What misdemeanor/ action would Mr Johnson have to commit before you wouldn't vote for him?
Asking for some friends, like the whole of humanity.
Thank you.

He doesn’t have Covid - has only been in contact with a positive case. He had Covid previously, has been doubly vaccinated and is unlikely to be a risk. It’s not unusual to be offered the test to release if you are contacted by track & trace - my boss was. If you are pinged by the app then it is only guidance and it is anonymous. I doubt he was actually pinged - more likely track & trace.

What have Sunak and Johnson done wrong here please?

(Not generally, that would be a very long post )

Witzend

TBH I can’t understand all the fuss and self righteous outrage
about this. (I don’t mean just on GN).
Two politicians realise that they’ve said or done something extremely unpopular, but within hours, have backtracked.

A pity it doesn’t occur rather more often, IMO!

But it does happen quite a lot. Politician gets found out doing wrong. Only back tracks when they realise public opinion is against them. Johnson, Sunak, Hancock. Cummings ( except he, at the time, got away with it).

I’ve been contacted through track and trace and am currently isolating. Within 2 days I was contacted to be in a trial, whereby I could stop isolating and do daily lateral flow tests and 3 times during the week pcr tests. I declined as I’d cancelled work and couldn’t be bothered with the faff. My daughter who was also pinged at the same time was never offered this option as it was a random selection for the pilot. I think people thought it was strange that they had both been offered this option when it was a random selection of society who had been chosen.

Look at it another way Javid, double-jabbed, felt groggy on Friday so had a test. On Saturday he felt fine, but test was positive, so he is a 'case'. How many of the 1000s of other new'cases' per day are as trifling as this? Any stats?

What are the actual stats for people with no symptoms passing on the infection? I know it can't be proved that the virus cannot be transmitted by a jabbed person - but is there evidence that it undoubtedly has been?

Here you go:

www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-launch-40000-person-daily-contact-testing-study

The problem wasn't that they had just decided unilaterally not to isolate, it was that people jump to conclusions and think its one rule for us and another for them.

There's plenty to blame this government for but this is not one of those things.

I think there are some cases of re infection and also you can still pass on the virus.
Even double vaccinated the virus can still make you quite ill if you catch it, I have a friend whose whole double vaccinated family got Covid a few weeks ago and were very unwell and there have been quite a few cases, so we should all proceed with extreme caution.

Ladyleftfieldlover

I’m not sure you can get covid twice. Otherwise we’re doomed.

Yes you can.

FarawayGran

Is there one rule for us and one for them?
How can he say, with a straight face that he is not isolating?
I can imagine people up and down the land choking on their breakfast. The audacity! This could lead to real social unrest.
He could pass this on to anyone who works at No10. Has he no common sense or decency?
I cannot believe when I read that he is so popular. Why?

Shall we get this correct

Boris does NOT have covid
His phone was pinged by track and trace
He initially was not going to self isolate
He is isolating now

Please lets stop typing untruths