This is none of my business, but I thought I'd ask anyway

You have to go by what your home nation's rules are and currently in Scotland if a family member has covid and you are double vaccinated you have a PCR and if negative you can go to work or wherever. Employers including NHS expect you to go back to work when you get a negative result and people can be disciplined if they stay off as it would be an unauthorised absence. Morals do not come into it. As in Wales rules can change overnight so you need to look it up.

If you are told it is ok to go into work, you have to go into work or you risk losing your job. Not all employers seem that bothered about people bringing Covid into the workplace - rightly or wrongly

If he is legally allowed to attend school then he should particularly if he is vaccinated. Too many kids have lost schooling and that time cannot be made up. Morals don't pay the bills or put food in you stomach. Lots of firms don't pay staff when they have to isolate so how the hell are they supposed to live. I am treble vaccinated so NEVER EVER do lateral flow testing. Had to isolate twice at the beginning of the year and it affected my mental health. Will NEVER do it again. That's why we have the vaccine.

I'm going to have to agree with Bibbity here. Doctors are more likely to be in a financial position where they can afford to take a few days off. Someone on minimum wage is less likely to be able to do that. I can see they might be between a rock and a hard place when a few days off might mean they can't pay for their housing or food or any special needs or regular needs of the family.

In an ideal world we could all take off time when sick. The world is not ideal. Since the world is not ideal, we have been given regulations to follow to balance/mitigate risk. All we can hope is that people are following the guidelines.

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Grannynannywanny

Bibbity

How privileged your DD and SiL are. Very lucky indeed. If only others had their privilege

You think maddyone‘s daughter and SIL are privileged and lucky to be doctors working themselves into the ground caring for critically ill covid patients?

They have a great privilege that they have jobs that allow them the finical comfort to take time off when necessary. That is a privilege many do not have.

I find the moral high ground stuff that goes on about covid really unsettling. I dont think calling other people immoral when they are following the current guidelines is particularly moral behaviour.

Bibbity

How privileged your DD and SiL are. Very lucky indeed. If only others had their privilege

You think maddyone‘s daughter and SIL are privileged and lucky to be doctors working themselves into the ground caring for critically ill covid patients?

How privileged your DD and SiL are. Very lucky indeed. If only others had their privilege.

What is needed is money. You can not ask someone to care about the faint possibility of others over the definite of their children suffering.

dogsmother I think you’re the one who’s being unfair because I absolutely didn’t say he’s going to kill someone, I said it’s an extreme example. In other words it’s unlikely to happen. However I had Covid in January pre vaccination, and I was hospitalised for twelve days, on oxygen the whole time, given a mountain of drugs which saved my life. I still have some chest pain where the pneumonia was located, and I tire more easily now. Having suffered very serious Covid I’m afraid I have little truck with the I can’t take a few days off work thinking. It’s selfish pure and simple. My son in law and daughter are doctors, but they took time off when one of their children showed symptoms. This happened several times as the children were at school and nursery because their parents were/are key workers. They both got Covid too, from their patients. Luckily for them not too serious. Just a week off work.
If you think Covid is all about hygiene, all I can say is no wonder we’re in a pandemic. Obviously a lot more public education is required rather desperately. I didn’t think there would be anyone left who after nearly two years thinks preventing Covid is all about hygiene. Covid is an airborne disease, spread by droplets. I thought everyone knew that now, but obviously not.

Maddyone….how do you account for medics w or king with COVID patients and any other infectious people for that matter. Surely it’s all about hygiene at this stage and a family with three school children need an income. You can’t really say he’s go8ng out to kill someone, that’s unfair.

maddyone

Getting fired is preferable to killing someone in my opinion. But both examples are extreme and unlikely to happen. It’s obvious what the son should do. Tell his employer that everyone in the house has Covid and he will not be in for a few days. If it’s possible to work from home it’s not a problem. If not, then he simply needs to stay at home and keep testing. It’s unbelievable to me that someone would defend the indefensible, but there’s always one isn’t there?

Unfortunately I disagree. This virus is awful but my family come first. The roof over my children's head. The food in their stomachs. They matter more. My husband can not stay home. He would have to work. Work do not have a pay for family isolating so he would go to work.

So long as son has no symptoms and has negative lateral flow tests then he can continue going to work. Plenty are doing it. Dil should be self isolating. I would be more concerned about mum going in but if she does LF tests each day and avoids contact with others and is double vaccinated and someone needs to look after gc what else can she do? Only if son stays home instead. Not easy.

Getting fired is preferable to killing someone in my opinion. But both examples are extreme and unlikely to happen. It’s obvious what the son should do. Tell his employer that everyone in the house has Covid and he will not be in for a few days. If it’s possible to work from home it’s not a problem. If not, then he simply needs to stay at home and keep testing. It’s unbelievable to me that someone would defend the indefensible, but there’s always one isn’t there?

And what is your solution? Get fired?

I don’t care whether morals pay the bills or not, as far as I’m concerned someone living in a house full of people with Covid, and still going to work and therefore risking infecting other people is a disgrace. This disease kills!

I’d say not, but if he’s keeping a mask on and adhering to to hygiene regulations then you know what they need to earn a living…….

Grannynannywanny

Maggymay

Are these regular test LF ? Because they are not very reliable DH and I are self isolating at the moment with covid, we both took a lateral flow test both were negative next day took PCR tests both positive

I heard a doctor emphasising recently that once the covid positive person’s infection reaches a certain stage of incubation the LF test is unlikely to pick it up. That’s why the LF tests are intended for routine monitoring to pick up asymptomatic cases in the early stages. And anyone with possible covid symptoms should always have a PCR. Her concern was that folk with symptoms were doing a home LFT and producing a negative result and therefore not doing a PCR. Then going out and spreading the virus.

I think this fact isn’t as well publicised as it should be and the government needs to revisit their guidelines and issue a refresher.

I hope you and your husband feel better soon Maggymay.

its well known.....no symptoms and just in case, then lateral flow...symptoms or risk, PCR

And again. Morals don't pay the bills and some work places do not allow the time off. Especially in the run up to Christmas when a lot of places are busy.

Blame the companies not the workers.

ExDancer your right it not how we are suppose to behave with a virus that’s killed more 5 million people WW. It’s a shocking indictment of their moral compass. Shame on them.

Only need to isolate until you have 1 negative PCR then you do not need to isolate.

The rules have just changed in Wales.

It depends where in the UK you live ExDancer. The rules in Wales have just changed again, so you do legally need to self isolate now if somebody in your household has a positive Covid test here.

Maggymay

Are these regular test LF ? Because they are not very reliable DH and I are self isolating at the moment with covid, we both took a lateral flow test both were negative next day took PCR tests both positive

I heard a doctor emphasising recently that once the covid positive person’s infection reaches a certain stage of incubation the LF test is unlikely to pick it up. That’s why the LF tests are intended for routine monitoring to pick up asymptomatic cases in the early stages. And anyone with possible covid symptoms should always have a PCR. Her concern was that folk with symptoms were doing a home LFT and producing a negative result and therefore not doing a PCR. Then going out and spreading the virus.

I think this fact isn’t as well publicised as it should be and the government needs to revisit their guidelines and issue a refresher.

I hope you and your husband feel better soon Maggymay.

Here are the rules. He doesn't have to but should warn people. www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/when-to-self-isolate-and-what-to-do/