Is Gender Critical the new Pro Life?

Gender critical beliefs are science based.

Believe in gender is more akin to belief in God. I can accept some people believe in God but they don’t get to impose their belief on me or compel me to proclaim such a belief. I can accept some people believe in gender but they don’t get to impose their belief on me or compel me to proclaim such a belief.

Compelled speech is not a good look whether is it in relation to belief in God, being/not being a communist, or forced pronouns or repeating TWAW.

I did spot the "tents" Doodledog but thought it best not to say anything!

Compelled speech is not a good look whether is it in relation to belief in God, being/not being a communist, or forced pronouns or repeating TWAW.

Brilliantly put Danville, you're absolutely right. And the mantra of #NoDebate doesn't leave much room for negotiation does it?

Sorry I spelt your name wrong dahville, autocorrect overrode me.

Great post, dahville.

Which brings us back to the tents of faith? I now have visions of an evangelical campsite, full of holidaying TRAs. I need to wipe it from my brain before I go to bed.

Tenets, everyone. Tenets.

Great post dahville Compulsion to validate the ideology is what most of us object to. That and deciding that women have no right to have any input when our spaces and the very words we use to describe ourselves are hijacked.

And thanks Doodledog your kind words mean a lot.

Yes, it was good to have a laugh! It kind of made my day, in an odd way.

I can assure you, you will never, ever find me in a tent. ? A marquee perhaps for a wedding or during a village show, but otherwise nope. Not doing that. :gavel:

Gender is entirely a social construct.

I've posted this, as a separate thread, but thought I'd put it here too.

I hope it may be informative to GagaJo who has shown herself to be so poorly acquainted with the views of gender critical feminists.

Just so you know GJ, many women I know have views very similar to Catherine Robillard, in this short video.

youtu.be/nnD5LXeGNPA

Excellent video, FarNorth. I think many women have been on the same journey as Catherine. Many women I knew took a similar view of the Caitlin Jenner story, that the former Bruce Jenner was now a woman. Some five or six years later, not one of those women still believe TWAW. They feel they have been duped out of their sex-based rights and they are angry.

Some of them have trans/non-binary children of their own. None of them believes their child has changed sex, even as they use preferred pronouns and changed names. One of the children has a friend who is not only trans but also believes they are a different race from that of their birth and wants to have surgery to change themselves into their preferred race. Should we also accept that people can change race?

Should we also accept that people can change race? Well there's certainly more logic to that than changing sex. Race is a spectrum, millions of mixed race people of infinite combinations are testimony to that spectrum. Do I actually believe you can change race, no I don't, but I think you can identify into another race with the same degree of accuracy as identifying into another sex.

Forgot to say, thanks for the link FarNorth, such a calm sensible woman.

Thank you so much for sharing that video. It says so much that needs saying.

Identifying into another race would also be wrong if the person then became eligible for scholarships / awards / employment etc which, for good reason, was intended for a specific demographic which was not truly theirs.

I agree FarNorth in exactly the same way as those categories when defined as for women, should be restricted to women and not just anyone who identifies as one. I've heard many commentators, for whom womanhood is an open to anyone category, say race is absolutely closed off and immutable. I can't see the difference. Rachel Dolezal has more in common with women of any race than she does with any transwomen.

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I agree FarNorth in exactly the same way as those categories when defined as for women, should be restricted to women and not just anyone who identifies as one. I've heard many commentators, for whom womanhood is an open to anyone category, say race is absolutely closed off and immutable. I can't see the difference. Rachel Dolezal has more in common with women of any race than she does with any transwomen.

Exactly, Rosie. Race can be proven one way or the other by science, but of course TRAs don’t do science.

Btw, the young person I mentioned is 100% white in recent history but ID’s as Japanese.

I'd like to define as a multi-millionaire, please? Come to think of it, whilst I'm at it, I quite fancy a title, as well. Countess Doodle of Dog has a ring to it. Obviously it will be phobic of anyone who stands in my way.

Where do I sign?

You don't even have to sign Countess Doodle of Dog just say it out loud once and hey presto you're there! (Performs small bob curtsey in such revered presence)

Splendid! I look forward to due deference and invitations to grand balls forthwith. If I am missed off any guest lists, I will have to assume that classphobia is responsible.

Do you need a lady-in-waiting Countess D of D? I’ve identified as a lady . . . and I’m waiting.

Dh and I have titles. We’re Lord & Lady Loobucket. I’ve kept it quiet on GN, but I feel in the interest of being our authentic selves we need to come out of the closet now. ?

I trust you’ll all be buying my book when it comes out. It’s called Finding Fleadom - it’s all about our dogs’ lifelong battle with very small invertebrate infestations.

SueDonim, do keep us informed of the publication of your book. I’m itching to read it!?

I appear to have misplaced my invitation to the Loobuckets' Christmas ball. Unless there is phobia in play?.

Oh, we’re equal opportunities entertainers, Doodledog - you’re very welcome! I’ll send a footman over with your personal invitation.

I see what you did there, Mollygo! ?

I'm late to this and have only just watched the Catherine Robillard video. She's articulated absolutely everything that I've tried to say about trans. It seems so bloody obvious that I just can't get my head around why any other woman doesn't get it. Thanks to FarNorth for sharing it.

Mollygo your post @ 21.50 made me laugh out loud!