Diabetes

I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes just two weeks ago and have already started the fast 800 diet. I’m finding it surprising easy and I never feel hungry on it. I was very borderline and I’m really hoping to reverse it asap though I realise I’ll always have to be careful with what I eat in future

I’m not overweight according to my BMI but I was told that I need to get back to the weight I was when I was in my 20’s. Apparently, this is what causes the problem - it’s internal fat I need to get rid of! I lost about half a stone in my first week so only another one to go then I can look at maintaining it for the rest of my life

Many thanks

I can’t exercise due to disabilities. But the 5-2 diet is recommended as is so easy to follow even for a foodie like me. You eat normally (healthy but normal) for 5 days a week then have only 600 calories for 2 days. It’s recommended by docs. I usually make myself homemade veg soups and freeze them for the 600 calories days. Soup can be more filling than other foods due to the high volume of water. Some people with full blown type 2 diabetes have gone back to normal on this diet ??

I hope Dr. Unwin's approach gives you some help in getting to grips with type2 Socks and I find he also has a very soothing voice, à la Bob Ross, so it's very nice to relax into sleep when listening to his podcasts - win win

I was pre diabetic and lost weight using a modified version of MM’s diet. I’m not pre diabetic anymore so it worked for me. I just cut right down on carbs of all types, lost weight slowly and never hungry.

Links to the related meal plans and maintenance below socks

Hope it works for you.

www.directclinicaltrial.org.uk/Documents/The%20Lean%20Team%20Flexi%20Food%20Based%20Diet%20plan_090119.pdf

www.directclinicaltrial.org.uk/Documents/The%20Lean%20Team%20Tips%20for%20Weight%20Loss%20Maintenance.pdf

My husband was type 2 for many years , he fully reversed it by cutting almost all carbs and never ate sugar! It took a few years but between us he did it, He now has regular checks but all is well and he now has a sensible diet , a few carbs and an occasional ice cream - it can be done!
On the other hand our GC was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of three - now 10;years old and doing well. This is a different story all together! and is not the result of eating the wrong stuff.

Thank you I've noted his name and will look into it

Thank you everyone for your comments

Thank you Blossingham. It says to be done under medical medical supervision but I'm not waiting around. I've started it. I will look online gor the maintenance plan also. Thank you

I've wrote it down. Started this morning

Talking about faddy diets, did anyone do the dreadful 'F' plan in the late 70's? I'm not sure why but the inventor's wife shot him.

You're right Franbern, type 1 diabetes is a very serious condition where the body simply cannot make it's own insulin. Insulin's main job is to control the action of glucose, too much of which is deadly, and type 1 must be supported by medication unlike type2 where the body can and does produce it's own insulin but which can be continually dangerously spiked by the food we eat and other lifestyle factors.
I'll shut up now as I don't want to come across as a lecturing arse but will just say I think it's wrong and misleading to lump the two together under the diabetes banner as if, when we're heading towards type2 we have no control over the onset when we actually do, and it's empowering.

Type 1 Diabetes cannot be reversed, no matter which diet anyone follows.
I do find the term 'pre-diabetic, rather disturbing. Surely, anyone who is not actually IN the Type 2 diabetic range is PRE-Diabetic!!!
Last March, when I well knew I really needed to lose some weight, the annual tests at my GP practice, came up with this phrase - I found it quite annoying - as I felt that they were just trying to scare me into losing weight. I was also given all the details about the current NHS diet which excludes ALL carbohydrates. Looked at this and knew there was no way I would be able to keep to it for any length of time. I love potatoes, pasta, rice, bread, etc - but can keep my consumption of these within reasonable proportions.

I did take on board that I should lose some weight, so put myself on my own time-honoured and used calorie control diet. Followed over many years, I know by heart the amount of calories in all the foods I eat.

No way would I try to stick to anything as low as 800 a day. Probably lose a lot of weight to start with be very miserable, and then my body would probably then go into starvation mode and weight loss would stop.

Suppose I go for under 1500 a day (I have very little physical exercise. When I had visitors I ignored it - if I went out for a meal with friends or family I ignored it - but the rest of the time I stuck to it.

Nearly a year later, and I am just three pounds short of a 2 stone weight loss, down at least one dress size. A further blood test last June confirmed all my readings were fine. Will continue with this

I have always found it actually easier to go on a weight loss diet than stick to a maintenance diet,

I dislike all the faddy diets that appear and disappear. If we wish to lose weight we need to eat less sugar (do not forget how much of that is hidden), and cut back on carbohydrates and be careful about fats. AND EAT LESS -Portion size is important. For those who can, obviously some sort of regular exercise. I am waiting for better weather and will go swimming.

Yes Nannee49 it isn’t as simple as cutting out the sugar. Put simply, excess carbs are converted to glucose in the body.

I’ve had non-diabetic hypercalcaemia for years. I’m trying to get my numbers down with diet and exercise as I really don’t want more medication on top of the ones I already take. My next blood test is due in a week’s time, hoping it will show a good result.

It is determined by the count of glucose in your blood (by a blood test rubysong ).
Can be done by a nurse at an annual check or you can own your own glucose monitor and check it yourself.
I was not aware of any symptoms, but other grans may offer their advice which is different.

What are the symptoms of being pre diabetic? Is it found by routine check ups or is there something which triggers investigation?

@welbeck daily calorie needs are individual. At 5’3” and 8st I only need around 1500 a day unless I do a 10k run or some other strenuous exercise. The 800 calorie diet clinical trial to reverse type 2 diabetes was for 2 months.

Although Michael Moseley is much mentioned there is also the work of the brilliant Dr David Unwin, a GP from Southport, who's passionate about the remission of type 2 diabetes and the prevention of prediabetes developing into full blown type 2 and has done marvellous work in this field.
I first came across him while searching online for help to manage my own prediabetic state and he was truly inspirational not only in helping me to change what I ate but also to understand more fully the nature of type 2 diabetes and how eating certain foods leads to this horrible condition. I couldn't get to grips with the fact that I didn't eat sugar or sweet things yet my glucose level was spiking towards a pre diabetic high. It was only after listening to Dr Unwin's podcast I was shocked to learn that 150 gms of basmati rice has the same effect on the body as eating TEN teaspoons of table sugar, and 150 gms of boiled potato NINE teaspoons.
He gets no payment other than his GP's salary for his work, donating any lecture fees to the Public Health Collaboration charity and it's a scandal that there's not more education and transparency about the nature of type 2 which, unlike the dreadful and serious type 1 diabetes, is largely preventable.

I don’t eat sugar.

I agree with Shropshirelass . If you can cut the sugars down most of the week, treats can be had without undoing the good.

You’re welcome, I’m finding it easy and feeling pretty good.

Sorry Blossoming I read it without reading it, I've seen it at the base of the daily plan now. I've looked on line and found the maintenance plan and other recipes now, I'm going to give it a go, thanks so much.

You can reverse diabetes by cutting out sugar and reducing carbohydrate intake. These are the things that spike insulin, take them away and it can’t happen. A low carbohydrate way of eating is much healthier for everyone. Good luck.

I don’t know where the exclamation mark came from…