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Socksandsocks01 Thu 10-Feb-22 15:40:49

I'm wondering if anyone has been prediabetic and been able to get back to healthy ranges. I'm trying to but my eyes have been terribly blurred today.

Shandy57 Thu 10-Feb-22 15:44:27

My friend was able to by following an 800 calorie per day diet, now eats very sensibly. Do go to the optician and get the blurring checked out.

Socksandsocks01 Thu 10-Feb-22 16:17:08

I've made an appointment. It's for later this month. I might try that 800 cals

welbeck Thu 10-Feb-22 16:33:27

that sounds too low, how can that be healthy, to aim to eat only 800 cals a day ?

welbeck Thu 10-Feb-22 16:34:07

1500, maybe, for a short time.

Redhead56 Thu 10-Feb-22 16:35:36

NHS have diet on line for diabetes my husband followed it for eight years. Before being told He was then put on two tablets only because the blood sugar levels had gone up a bit

Rosalyn69 Thu 10-Feb-22 16:42:47

My husband tried but all he did was lose so much weight he looked really awful and was miserable. He now takes tablets. His blood sugar is controlled and he’s well and happy.

Redhead56 Thu 10-Feb-22 16:44:03

Sorry phone has its own mind meant to say that his glucose levels had gone up a bit. But even then he was not full blown diabetic. He was pre diabetic but the doctor pushed it for him to go on the tablets. It would be a good idea to have blood pressure checked.

shysal Thu 10-Feb-22 17:20:14

Michel Mosely has documented several forms of 800 calorie eating programmes, all intended to reverse pre-diabetes. His books are for sale on line. It is surprising how much filling food can be prepared for so few calories.
thefast800.com/dr-michael-mosleys-diet-plan-in-a-nutshell/

Shandy57 Thu 10-Feb-22 17:24:01

That was the diet shysal, I should have included the link, thanks. My friend's diabetes has now been reversed for over three years, thanks to this eating plan.

Sparklefizz Thu 10-Feb-22 17:25:56

My ex son-in-law reversed his Type 2 inadvertently by his car needing to go into the garage for extensive repairs..... hence he walked everywhere for 2 weeks, lost over a stone in weight, and it gave him a head start to better health.

As shysal says, Michael Moseley has a number of books and diet plans and reversed his own Type 2 Diabetes.

Blossoming Thu 10-Feb-22 17:35:50

This is the diet NHS Scotland has used, devised by Glasgow University. I’m following a modified version and doing OK.

www.directclinicaltrial.org.uk/Documents/The%20Lean%20Team%20No%20Doubt%20Diet%20plan.pdf

Shandy57 Thu 10-Feb-22 19:25:57

That's a great food plan Blossoming. It doesn't mention hot drinks, do you have black tea or coffee?

Blossoming Thu 10-Feb-22 20:31:56

It covers drinks in the Fluids section! I’ve copied and pasted it below. I mostly drink boiled water, but I have to have my morning tea and after dinner coffee smile

“Aim for 3 litres (zero calorie) fluids per day. There is an allowance of 200 mls semi-skimmed milk for teas/coffees, or as a drink. If you prefer not to use milk, have a 150-175g pot of low fat yoghurt instead. The remaining 2.8 litres as water, teas, herbal infusions, coffee. Try to avoid sweetened ‘diet’ drinks.
Tip: Flavour water (including sparkling water) with lemon, cucumber, or orange and keep a jug in the fridge to keep nice and cold.”

Blossoming Thu 10-Feb-22 20:33:05

I don’t know where the exclamation mark came from…

Shropshirelass Thu 10-Feb-22 20:40:03

You can reverse diabetes by cutting out sugar and reducing carbohydrate intake. These are the things that spike insulin, take them away and it can’t happen. A low carbohydrate way of eating is much healthier for everyone. Good luck.

Shandy57 Thu 10-Feb-22 21:44:48

Sorry Blossoming I read it without reading it, I've seen it at the base of the daily plan now. I've looked on line and found the maintenance plan and other recipes now, I'm going to give it a go, thanks so much.

Blossoming Thu 10-Feb-22 21:49:57

You’re welcome, I’m finding it easy and feeling pretty good.

TillyTrotter Thu 10-Feb-22 22:26:17

I agree with Shropshirelass . If you can cut the sugars down most of the week, treats can be had without undoing the good.

Blossoming Thu 10-Feb-22 23:23:36

I don’t eat sugar.

Nannee49 Fri 11-Feb-22 07:38:50

Although Michael Moseley is much mentioned there is also the work of the brilliant Dr David Unwin, a GP from Southport, who's passionate about the remission of type 2 diabetes and the prevention of prediabetes developing into full blown type 2 and has done marvellous work in this field.
I first came across him while searching online for help to manage my own prediabetic state and he was truly inspirational not only in helping me to change what I ate but also to understand more fully the nature of type 2 diabetes and how eating certain foods leads to this horrible condition. I couldn't get to grips with the fact that I didn't eat sugar or sweet things yet my glucose level was spiking towards a pre diabetic high. It was only after listening to Dr Unwin's podcast I was shocked to learn that 150 gms of basmati rice has the same effect on the body as eating TEN teaspoons of table sugar, and 150 gms of boiled potato NINE teaspoons.
He gets no payment other than his GP's salary for his work, donating any lecture fees to the Public Health Collaboration charity and it's a scandal that there's not more education and transparency about the nature of type 2 which, unlike the dreadful and serious type 1 diabetes, is largely preventable.

argymargy Fri 11-Feb-22 08:03:04

@welbeck daily calorie needs are individual. At 5’3” and 8st I only need around 1500 a day unless I do a 10k run or some other strenuous exercise. The 800 calorie diet clinical trial to reverse type 2 diabetes was for 2 months.

rubysong Fri 11-Feb-22 08:46:28

What are the symptoms of being pre diabetic? Is it found by routine check ups or is there something which triggers investigation?

TillyTrotter Fri 11-Feb-22 08:58:52

It is determined by the count of glucose in your blood (by a blood test rubysong ).
Can be done by a nurse at an annual check or you can own your own glucose monitor and check it yourself.
I was not aware of any symptoms, but other grans may offer their advice which is different.

Blossoming Fri 11-Feb-22 09:26:34

Yes Nannee49 it isn’t as simple as cutting out the sugar. Put simply, excess carbs are converted to glucose in the body.

I’ve had non-diabetic hypercalcaemia for years. I’m trying to get my numbers down with diet and exercise as I really don’t want more medication on top of the ones I already take. My next blood test is due in a week’s time, hoping it will show a good result.