Are you wearing a mask re Covid

Baggs whatever you do dont give them evidence that masks dont work. Most have taken to them like babies with dummies and anyone who disagrees are awful people who don't care about others

Quite agree Far North!

Biscuitmuncher

Baggs whatever you do dont give them evidence that masks dont work. Most have taken to them like babies with dummies and anyone who disagrees are awful people who don't care about others

Biscuitmuncher It's obvious you have problems with anxiety. I feel a bit sorry for you and really think you should try and get yourself sorted, but why do you feel the need to call sensible people "babies with dummies"?

Baggs

For anyone interested in following up the stats quoted, see Jamie Jenkins' Twttr account @statsjamie

Who is Jamie Jenkins?

Retired65

Well, I had a doctor's appointment two weeks ago and the doctor told me I didn't need to wear a mask unless I had symptoms of covid.

Very few people seem to be wearing them now.

I have no idea whether people have been wearing masks at my GP's surgery, but I received a text this morning saying they have more or less had to close (except for emergencies) because so many staff at the practice have Covid. Nearly all appointments have been moved online or to telephone appointments. Routine tests with the nurse have been cancelled.

who is Jamie Jenkins growstuff
I looked him up. He seems to have stood as a Reform UK candidate in Wales.
As I’ve mentioned before, it is common to seek out information that already supports ones pre formed views. (Confirmation Bias)

Thank you Farzanah. I won't be taking him too seriously.

Reicher said “closing our eyes and pretending it's not there, that's the most dangerous strategy of all,” but that is exactly what people are doing.

He's right ... and that's precisely what people who want to "get back to normal" and go to great lengths to cherry pick statistics are doing.

Reicher also wrote, "Those who deny history are condemned to repeat past mistakes. Acting as if it’s all over not only leaves us exposed and helpless in the present. It also makes us exposed and helpless next time."

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/05/pretending-covid-over-uk-government-virus-risk-public-health-measures

I like Stephen Reicher and think he makes a lot of sense growstuff. So IMO do many of the scientists, on the Independent Sage Group, and I would rather listen to them. That’s my bias, which I’m readily admitting to.

Sajid Javid’s just resigned!

No-one I know is acting as if it's all over. They are acting as if it's something they can deal with, which, even the poeple I know have (and know of having) had it (once or more than once) feel they can do. This includes one or two people who are anti-vax in general, not just for covid vaccines.

In short, they are pissed off with what they see as media fear-mongering. That isn't a denial of the seriousness of the disease for some people, but an acceptance of the fact that life includes risk of illness and even death. I still haven't seen any stats claiming that the virus is much of a threat to young people or people in the prime of life as the Spanish Flu after WW1 was.

Javid and Sunak resignations are covered on a different thread as their resignations are not about covid.

Baggs

No-one I know is acting as if it's all over. They are acting as if it's something they can deal with, which, even the poeple I know have (and know of having) had it (once or more than once) feel they can do. This includes one or two people who are anti-vax in general, not just for covid vaccines.

In short, they are pissed off with what they see as media fear-mongering. That isn't a denial of the seriousness of the disease for some people, but an acceptance of the fact that life includes risk of illness and even death. I still haven't seen any stats claiming that the virus is much of a threat to young people or people in the prime of life as the Spanish Flu after WW1 was.

Did you read what another poster wrote about her son, previously a confident young man who had travelled the world, now suffering from long covid and being unable to function properly any more.

growstuff I'm not the one scared of a cold

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usernametaken oh my gosh, exactly right!! Best decision I ever made was not to take any of the vaccines. How many people are fully vaccinated and have still been ill

No one has ever accused me of being someone that can be controlled before!

It will show what most of us have been warning about for 2 years, that these Vaccines are a slow Death Sentence.

And in other breaking news.....the earth is flat.

Biscuitmuncher I will repeat again what I keep saying and you seem incapable of understanding. No vaccine stops the total transmission of a disease nor removes every chance of someone catching it.

What it does is give immunity to the majority, and drastically reduces the severity of the disease in those who get it.

The comparison I always make is with the childhood immunisations for whooping cough and measles. Back in the early 1950s both my sisters caught one then the other. The youngest nearly died of it , the elder was seriously ill for over three months and missed nearly 2 terms of school.

In the 1970s, my children had their immunisations. Both had whooping cough, one had measles. In both cases the illness lasted less than a week and both were very mildly ill.

This is how vaccinations work, not your silly interpretation of it, which I am sure you are capable of researching properly but cannot be bothered, finding that believing ignorant gurus to be so much more exciting than the facts.

Chewbacca

^It will show what most of us have been warning about for 2 years, that these Vaccines are a slow Death Sentence.^

And in other breaking news.....the earth is flat.

Well commented, Chewbacca.

Biscuitmuncher, your comment about catching a cold is truly risible. People don’t die as the direct result of colds. I’ve been having them for years snd 81 years later I’m still here. I’d like to hang about a bit longer too.

Baggs, I don’t hear too much these days from the media reporting on covid statistics, but I personally know lots of people who have/have had covid snd who’ve been very ill.
We DO need to go on being careful, because getting it is nothing like catching a cold (that wasn’t your claim, I know).

twitter.com/NHS100K/status/1544264456183730177?s=20&t=WmzcVC22Ywf6BwBG6l2htw

This is interesting!

*M0nica" I've had all my vaccinations so have my children, but were not having this one

My GP surgery has just reiterated on fb that masks must be worn when attending.

*Biscuitcatcher, in which case you are barmy.

biscuitmuncher, I don’t think Baggs can give any evidence that masks don’t provide any protection, as I doubt if such evidence exists.

cupcake1, I’m very sorry to hear about your son and hope he recovers soon.