I haven’t had the Covid vaccine and I don’t know what to do now?

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Jaffacake2 Your experience must have been terrifying - and what a difficult position it leaves you in. If I had had your experience, I would have no further jabs, yet so many places are making up to date vaccine record as a necessity to visit them.

I think those places are making it a requirement for the protection of their other visitors, and they would be condemned if they didn't. Many people are aware that their own medical condition makes it imperative that they are not knowingly exposed to infection with the virus and the venue has a responsibility to them.

Vaccination makes so much difference to your chances of getting CoVid badly enough to be hospitalised. If you go by just the number of people in hospital (in the smaller circle) that isn't clear, but the complete righthand diagram shows the proportions of people hospitalised out of those with or without vaccination.
Does anyone have a similar comparison for the proportion of people getting bad complications after the jab, compared to the proportion getting bad complications who haven't" been vaccinated? Not the ^number of those whose dramatic stories are made a lot of noise about, but what percentage out of the totals. I suspect there is a vast difference.

Believe me I am definitely not anti vax.
I would love to have the vaccine but not with risk of having another anaphylactic shock which can prove fatal

Esspee, I think you may be correct!?

Jaffacake2 Your experience must have been terrifying - and what a difficult position it leaves you in. If I had had your experience, I would have no further jabs, yet so many places are making up to date vaccine record as a necessity to visit them.

I find myself checking on whether a poster has posted before quite a lot these days.
The OP has.
Still, it sounds like an anti vaxer’s attempt to stir the pot to me.

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I am finding it very hard to cope with being in the small number of people who have had an anaphylactic shock after the second vaccination. I suffer from anaphylaxis to many foods and drugs but had been reassured that I would be able to have the vaccine. I collapsed within 10 mins and needed 6 shots of adrenaline on the way to hospital. Further treatment was given by iv drugs in resus.
Now I keep getting contacted by gp surgery and NHS that I need a booster. It must have been recorded about my reaction but suppose it is automated mailing. The receptionist at the surgery thinks I would be fine to sit in the surgery for 20mins after the jab. Don't think so !
So now scared that I will get covid,am asthmatic so could be bad. But also scared of trying the vaccine although it is a different one to the Astra Seneca I reacted to.
Still going out and around but wouldn't go on a cruise ! Just have to see what happens next. That's life.

bengal can I tell you a true story
A few years ago I went on a trial for a herbal tablet it was a blind trial which is no one knows whether they are taking the real tablet or the placebo
After the trial ended you filled in a questionnaire about any side effects
Well there were answers about everything from headaches, stomach upsets to suicidal ideation and the majority of these extreme side effects were the people who took the placebo
???

BCO all vaccines come with risks like all tablets do. Sorry you had bad reaction to your flu vaccine. But every year the flu vaccine contains different strains of the virus. So no 2 years vaccine is the same. Covid like the flu is a virus and it's mutants.

I am very pro vaccine. I remember the horrible smallpox vaccine and like a generation still have the scar from it. I remember when whopping cough, measles,polio,rubella and TB mained and killed . I consider myself lucky that my parents made sure I
had all the vaccines available at the time. Having my flu jab next week and Covid booster the week after. If I have a bad reaction so be it . I would rather have a bad reaction than the disease. I know I can still get Covid even after being vaccinated but it wouldn't be as bad as not having it. Had my other Covid jabs not very well for a few days after them but knew that before having them.

I am so glad that children can get all the vaccines they can nowadays. All my grandson's are vaccinated against all they can be. As my children where given all the vaccines available at the time.

It saddens me that we are still discussing the pro and anti vaccines groups. People of the third world would jump at the chance to get the free medical care and all the vaccines we can in this country.

Covid numbers are slowly rising again with the onset of winter. We a have the choice to have the flu and Covid vaccines are not. As soon as I am 70 I will be getting my shingles vaccine and anything else they want to give me. Because of health problems still do LFT every week and still wear my mask when on the bus ,shops and crowded areas. Some will say that's overkill but I am protecting not only me but anyone who can't have the vaccines because of health problems.

With any vaccination you will have a few that react badly. A few. Ask your doctor for advice in your particular case. I don’t know about the UK but here they make you wait in the surgery for 20 minutes post vaccine to make sure there are no adverse reactions and deal with it if there are. I know they could develop later but that seems to be rare by all accounts. I’d take the risk because,compared with actually getting Covid, it is worth it.

We enjoy cruising, but wouldn't go now although we are fully vaccinated. It's very simple - book your vaccination!!!! I , like most people couldn't wait to roll my sleeve up. I have had a severe reaction to one flu jab. Very poorly indeed!! Was anxious about further flu vaccines but have been fine. No side effects with the Covid vaccines either. Please think back to when Covid reared its ugly head, so many people on ventilators and having very distressing deaths !!!
If we all thought like you BengalCatOwner, where would the world be ???? I am so grateful there are people clever enough to produce a new vaccine - WOW! How fortunate we are! You have decided to err on the side of caution , I sincerely wish you good luck - but implore you to rethink . Having the vaccination is the the correct course of action for you and those you love. I am sure you don't wish to spend the rest of your life avoiding social situations .....
or do you !?

AmberSpyglass

Will you even be allowed to go on the cruise without proof of vaccination?

No she won't...that is the point of her post ?

Thank you for all your replies. I really appreciate it.

I’m still at a bit of a loss, but I guess going on a cruise is probably out of the question?

I’m not sure, but the more I read, the more I don’t trust these vaccinations. I think I am going to err on the side of caution x

Will you even be allowed to go on the cruise without proof of vaccination?

I've had 5 Pfizer now....I'm fine.....wouldn't want to try another make but quite happy to have Pfizer now each year

We are planning to do a cruise next year around the med, something I have always wanted to do, but I need to have had two injections for booking! I am really at a loss what to do!

Get the jabs or don't go on the cruise.

Your thinking is a bit contradictory OP. You say you’re persuaded about the ‘danger’ of the vaccine by online stories posted by unknown ‘people’ (or bots) - pretty flimsy, certainly uncorroborated evidence. Then you say, All my friends have had their initial two injections, most of them only had a sore arm, some even no symptoms. Considering both sets of evidence objectively, surely the latter is the more convincing. That would be my way of looking at it.

Hi ,

I understand how you feel , but I really think that you need some sound medical advice .
If you go on that cruise you are putting yourself at risk and have to have them anyway.

I dreaded the flu and anti covid vaccines , but I'd far rather have the jabs than the disease .
One of my friends has long covid .
Another has a damaged heart and lungs and is not expected to live .
I've met people who've actually been in comas .
It really isn't worth the risk .
Please take a deep breath and have the jabs .
Take care .

MadeinYorkshire I have checked this out and for balance I would suggest you take a look at what many other doctors and scientists say which is evidence based and not cherry picked.

I've had three covid jabs so far, but I too am somewhat reluctant to have the fourth jab, because I have never returned to the energy levels I has before this vaccination period started. I have always had the flu jabs, no side effects other than a sore arm.

My neighbour has just come back from a cruise. 3 days in she had covid symptoms but didn't tell anyone and carried on mixing with everyone on board and going ashore at each port. She said the ship was rife with covid and norovirus

I am fully vaccinated but no way would I go anywhere near a cruise ship!

Dr. Aseem Malhotra, is a British Cardiologist who appeared on TV at the beginning of the vaccine rollout to try to encourage people to take the vaccine. After his fit and healthy father died after having the vaccine, he has now changed his mind and is asking for it to be stopped and is pressing for more testing, but is being ignored -

worldcouncilforhealth.org/multimedia/aseem-malhotra-press-conference/

I am double jabbed but will have no more, ever, too many deaths - 2 people I know have have their autmn booster and were quite unwell. There are some lovely places in the UK ....

You could try staying indoors and not meeting anyone for the rest of your life, and I hear praying is also good, also salt circles, chicken sacrifices etc if you want to avoid all that Medical Science Bit ?

Seriously, your GP will advise you best @bengalcatowner
You may have to have the vaccine in her office for observation. The flu jab isn’t the same thing you know.

Personally, I’m jabbed up to the hilt as I’m not prepared to live in purdah, or spend my days and nights in prayer, or covered in candle wax and feathers.

Carpe diem! Go on your cruise.

I agree with aonk that there is no easy answer here. There will always be a risk with any vaccination but the benefits outweigh the risks - though not for the few who have an adverse reaction.

All I can say is that I too had a bad reaction to the flu jab, more than the usual sore arm etc, so I understand your dilemma. However I bit the bullet and had the Covid jab and all the boosters with no reaction.