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I haven’t had the Covid vaccine and I don’t know what to do now?

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BengalCatOwner Tue 11-Oct-22 18:54:56

I did not take the Covid vaccine as I had a really bad reaction to my first flu jab when I reached that age to get a free one. I was in hospital for three days, and even advised by the doctor not to have flu jabs again.

Sadly I lost two friends with covid cited as a reason, and I have been very careful since March 2020, wearing a mask in crowded spaces and not going out much. All my friends have had their initial two injections, most of them only had a sore arm, some even no symptoms. I had booked myself in twice, but for some reason my experience after the flu injection made me chicken out. Then I started hearing about people getting ill and testing positive even after the vaccination.

I started doing some research on the internet and there are quite a few respectable doctors and scientists warning of the vaccine, how it has emergency authorisation only, the mRNA technique was trialled for other illnesses but never made it to get licensed as it did not work or there were too many side effects.

I hear of people, young people, who have heart attacks, stroke, chronic fatigue. Cancers which go from being discovered to end stage within months. Women experiencing months of menstrual problems, women having periods again years after menopause!

Withing my circle of friends I know one lady whose daughter had a still born at 8 months, who was told by midwives they have seen an increase in this happening!

The mother of another friend, her mild dementia got worse rapidly and they had to put her into a home.

All my friends are getting the booster, and urge me to get my first vaccination. I tell them of my concerns and they say, no, it is totally different to flu, this is a new technique, it is safe, so many people around the world had it and they are all fine!

We are planning to do a cruise next year around the med, something I have always wanted to do, but I need to have had two injections for booking! I am really at a loss what to do!

volver Tue 11-Oct-22 18:59:39

there are quite a few respectable doctors and scientists warning of the vaccine

By definition, they are not respectable.

I am really at a loss what to do!

Ask your GP if s/he recommends you get the vaccine. Do as they recommend.

BlueBelle Tue 11-Oct-22 19:05:20

Entirely up to you but most of those scare stories are just that and no one can really prove that a persons dementia wasn’t going to get worse anyway or a baby still born may have just been how it was
A cruise is probably the most likely place to get an illness like CoviD and if they need it for you to be valid well that’s it isn’t it if you want to go on the cruise that’s what you need to do
My boss has just had his second dose of CoviD and was extremely ill how much worse would he have been without a jab

MawtheMerrier Tue 11-Oct-22 19:52:23

We are planning to do a cruise next year around the med, something I have always wanted to do, but I need to have had two injections for booking ! I am really at a loss what to do
You have answered your own question.
You have a choice- no jab, no cruise.
The various examples you quote of disastrous side effects of the covid jab are all anecdotal and could be matched many times over by anecdotal (or otherwise) examples of admissions to ICU, artificial respirators, even death, or lingering illness from Covid.
It’s a no-brainer to me , but at the end of the day, your decision.

Fleurpepper Tue 11-Oct-22 20:32:32

Your decision indeed, and your consequences.

GrandmaKT Tue 11-Oct-22 20:36:40

I am normally very 'pro' vaccine, have had my first two and the booster and am ready and waiting to be called up for my fourth. I have little time for all the scaremongers with their tales of micro chips and "you don't know what's in it!"

However, I have a good friend who was in the same boat as you - had previously had a very severe reaction to the flu jab. After talking to her doctor, she was reassured and went for her first covid jab. Sadly she became really ill immediately. She developed fibromyalgia and, 18 months later, is still on steroids and not back to normal.
I think we have to accept that there is a small minority who should not have the covid (or flu) jab. If the rest of us have it, you should be as protected as possible.
Regarding your cruise, if your doctor is sympathetic, you may be able to get a medical exemption certificate (which may or may not be accepted by the cruise line).

RichmondPark1 Tue 11-Oct-22 21:42:08

Why don't you go to speak to your GP about this BengalCatOwner. You can get some professional advice from someone who knows your medical situation and has facts at their fingertips.

Like you I've been very lucky to avoid Covid for the last couple of years, I've had my jabs and been very careful....then two weeks ago, a couple of days before our boosters were due my husband I both got Covid. Good grief we've been rough. I wouldn't wish this on anyone so do get some proper medical advice as Covid might well be worse than the reaction to the vaccine.

Oopsadaisy1 Tue 11-Oct-22 21:54:02

Get vaccinated or cancel the cruise and any other foreign travel.

Oopsadaisy1 Tue 11-Oct-22 21:54:57

Meant to press ‘preview’ sorry

Meanwhile see your GP and get expert advice.

Luckygirl3 Tue 11-Oct-22 21:56:37

Seconding the idea of seeing your GP. You need some sound medical advice following your bad experience. What you do not need are vaccine scaremongers and anecdotal "evidence" - you need hard scientific facts that will help you to make a decision. Book an appointment.

M0nica Tue 11-Oct-22 22:17:15

I went on a cruise at the beginning of September with DH and DD. We all tested positive for COVID on the day we returned and we think quite a number of other people got it as well. All of us were fully vaccinated.

I fully understand your dilemma, but I think to even consider going on a cruise if you are not fully vaccinated is insane, regardless of whether you can get any kind of exemption certificate. You may have to accept that your days of foreign travel are over, unless you want to return from holiday in an air ambulance, or even worse, a hearse.

BigBertha1 Tue 11-Oct-22 22:20:25

What Monica said.

Cabbie21 Tue 11-Oct-22 23:02:25

I couldn't agree more.

LOUISA1523 Tue 11-Oct-22 23:19:59

Get the vaccine...or change your travel plans....simples

Grantanow Wed 12-Oct-22 09:22:36

Ask your GP for advice and seriously consider taking the advice. Most anti-vax stuff is loony propaganda by fruitcakes.

Mandrake Wed 12-Oct-22 11:01:41

Do you know why you reacted to your flu shot? What happened? If you know that, can you ask for a referral to a specialist to discuss your risks of the vaccine and the disease?

maddyone Wed 12-Oct-22 11:11:54

volver

^there are quite a few respectable doctors and scientists warning of the vaccine^

By definition, they are not respectable.

I am really at a loss what to do!

Ask your GP if s/he recommends you get the vaccine. Do as they recommend.

This.

maddyone Wed 12-Oct-22 11:14:51

Incidentally it has been made extremely clear to us all that pregnant mothers need to get the vaccine as babies have been adversely affected by Covid, as have their mothers. A midwife implying that the vaccine is causing still births is extremely irresponsible because it’s simply not true!

aonk Wed 12-Oct-22 11:20:46

There isn’t an easy answer here. The covid jab is designed to protect against serious illness and not to prevent you from getting it. If you don’t have the vaccine you risk getting a serious rather than a mild case.
Only a doctor can help you with this dilemma preferably one who is aware of your nightmare with the flu jab. You have received excellent advice from the other posters.

Quokka Wed 12-Oct-22 12:38:09

I agree with aonk that there is no easy answer here. There will always be a risk with any vaccination but the benefits outweigh the risks - though not for the few who have an adverse reaction.

All I can say is that I too had a bad reaction to the flu jab, more than the usual sore arm etc, so I understand your dilemma. However I bit the bullet and had the Covid jab and all the boosters with no reaction.

VenusDeVillendorf Wed 12-Oct-22 12:53:04

You could try staying indoors and not meeting anyone for the rest of your life, and I hear praying is also good, also salt circles, chicken sacrifices etc if you want to avoid all that Medical Science Bit ?

Seriously, your GP will advise you best @bengalcatowner
You may have to have the vaccine in her office for observation. The flu jab isn’t the same thing you know.

Personally, I’m jabbed up to the hilt as I’m not prepared to live in purdah, or spend my days and nights in prayer, or covered in candle wax and feathers.

Carpe diem! Go on your cruise.

MadeInYorkshire Wed 12-Oct-22 13:04:28

Dr. Aseem Malhotra, is a British Cardiologist who appeared on TV at the beginning of the vaccine rollout to try to encourage people to take the vaccine. After his fit and healthy father died after having the vaccine, he has now changed his mind and is asking for it to be stopped and is pressing for more testing, but is being ignored -

worldcouncilforhealth.org/multimedia/aseem-malhotra-press-conference/

I am double jabbed but will have no more, ever, too many deaths - 2 people I know have have their autmn booster and were quite unwell. There are some lovely places in the UK ....

Grannybags Wed 12-Oct-22 13:22:21

My neighbour has just come back from a cruise. 3 days in she had covid symptoms but didn't tell anyone and carried on mixing with everyone on board and going ashore at each port. She said the ship was rife with covid and norovirus

I am fully vaccinated but no way would I go anywhere near a cruise ship!

annette1956 Wed 12-Oct-22 13:49:08

I've had three covid jabs so far, but I too am somewhat reluctant to have the fourth jab, because I have never returned to the energy levels I has before this vaccination period started. I have always had the flu jabs, no side effects other than a sore arm.

Farzanah Wed 12-Oct-22 13:55:08

MadeinYorkshire I have checked this out and for balance I would suggest you take a look at what many other doctors and scientists say which is evidence based and not cherry picked.