Princess Grace hospital cancelled vital surgery for woman who requested single-sex care

You also shared that Welbeck are you now guilty too?

I'd quote you but I don't want to contravene the wossname

the women only hospital was the Elizabeth Garrett Anderson Hospital, on Euston Road.

But the account is of them entering and then leaving with no action other than making eye contact with the patient.

I'm sorry, honest, this is just comical.

Intimidation by glancing. We've lost the plot.

I disagree. A silent, hovering presence staring at you can be very, very frightening.

Particularly if they have invaded your private space

VioletSky. that was an error, for which i have apologised to MN; i pressed the quote button instead of the report one by mistake.
i note your flippant attitude to the law and to the administration of justice.
i do not share that attitude.

It is irrelevant whether or not at the time, she was undergoing a procedure. As Lathyrus has quite rightly pointed out, if this nurse was not a member of her care team why were they there in the first place?

If the female only request had been adhered too, this unfortunate incident which may well have been as upsetting for the nurse as it was for the patient, should and could have been avoided.

Have you really never been stared till you felt uncomfortable.

I must be more gorgeous than I thought……

Lathyrus

Have you really never been stared till you felt uncomfortable.

I must be more gorgeous than I thought……

I have had a person stick their head in the door, meet my eye and then withdraw.

Maybe I'm more intimidating than you thought...

Lathyrus

growstuff

Lathyrus Where have you picked up that she was undergoing a procedure? All that she has written is that she was having a pre-op assessment, which could have been just questioning. Certainly, my own pre-op assessments have not involved any "procedures".

I'm afraid there has been a lot of exaggeration here.

I admit I picked it up from media accounts. It was in a direct quotation of what she said so I took it at face value.

Nevertheless procedure or assessment an unauthorised member of staff did enter the room. F there was a good reason for that then the investigation stops.

But the account is of them entering and then leaving with no action other than making eye contact with the patient.

If that is so I think most people would understand why she found that unnerving. It is not behaviour a hospital would expect from any member of staff.

The hospital acknowledged the complaint and said it was investigating. I've read the email and Twitter exchanges. The woman later admitted she wasn't being examined when the (allegedly) trans nurse entered the room. The nurse didn't speak to her, touch her or interact in any way. The hospital Consultant said that her life wasn't in immediate danger and there were other hospitals which could perform the operation. She then said she wanted the operation at Princess Grace, but the hospital said it didn't have single-sex ICU wards, so couldn't comply with her demands. The woman is a former lawyer and, quite frankly, sounds as though she was looking for trouble.

volver

Lathyrus

Have you really never been stared till you felt uncomfortable.

I must be more gorgeous than I thought……

I have had a person stick their head in the door, meet my eye and then withdraw.

Maybe I'm more intimidating than you thought...

😂

Lathyrus

Have you really never been stared till you felt uncomfortable.

I must be more gorgeous than I thought……

She didn't claim to be "stared at". She said their gaze met briefly, which she claimed was intimidating (only her words).

Smileless2012

It is irrelevant whether or not at the time, she was undergoing a procedure. As Lathyrus has quite rightly pointed out, if this nurse was not a member of her care team why were they there in the first place?

If the female only request had been adhered too, this unfortunate incident which may well have been as upsetting for the nurse as it was for the patient, should and could have been avoided.

No, she wasn't undergoing a procedure!!!

Even she admitted that.

So why did the nurse enter her room and why have you put "the (allegedly) trans nurse ..." growstuff? Are you saying that a trans nurse didn't enter her room and she's making the whole thing up?

Good, I’m glad they’re investigating. That’s exactly what should happen. Especially the reason for the unauthorised entry into what should have been a private consultation.

That will have to be explained I hope. It’s just basic safeguarding.

Smileless2012

It is irrelevant whether or not at the time, she was undergoing a procedure. As Lathyrus has quite rightly pointed out, if this nurse was not a member of her care team why were they there in the first place?

If the female only request had been adhered too, this unfortunate incident which may well have been as upsetting for the nurse as it was for the patient, should and could have been avoided.

She didn't request that only females cared for her. Another lie from the mangled secondary sources.

And as I posted growstuff whether or not she was undergoing a procedure is irrelevant.

Smileless2012

So why did the nurse enter her room and why have you put "the (allegedly) trans nurse ..." growstuff? Are you saying that a trans nurse didn't enter her room and she's making the whole thing up?

Because I have no proof that this nurse was trans.

Smileless2012

And as I posted growstuff whether or not she was undergoing a procedure is irrelevant.

No, it's not because that's what people are claiming.

I’m afraid you just can’t get past that unauthorised entry unless the member of staff can give a good reason for it.

It’s just not professional.

She was having a pre-op assessement, which would have involved a nurse with a clipboard and questions about her previous medical history, etc. It's possible she was also weighed, measured and had her blood pressure taken.

welbeck

VioletSky. that was an error, for which i have apologised to MN; i pressed the quote button instead of the report one by mistake.
i note your flippant attitude to the law and to the administration of justice.
i do not share that attitude.

Are the wossnames really contravened without identifying details? Not sure they are.

Thank you for pointing out my flippant attitude to the law.

I will add that to the rude and derogatory I was told I am earlier

I am just an all around menace to society really

^VioletSky

Fleurpepper

Sending hugs to your friends and you because I generally need a hug after one of these threads^

Sending hugs to you both too💐 I naively got involved in one of these threads recently and actually felt bullied by a number of posters - quite upsetting. Hence I haven’t added my views to this thread but am giving moral support to you.

Lathyrus

I’m afraid you just can’t get past that unauthorised entry unless the member of staff can give a good reason for it.

It’s just not professional.

I agree. The hospital needs to investigate that, but it's absolutely nothing to do with whether the nurse was male, female, trans or a Martian! The woman sounds like an unhinged and entitled trouble-maker.

She didn't request that only females cared for her where did you get this from growstuff?