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Prolapse. Decision to make.

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Ohmother Fri 30-Dec-22 06:51:44

I have the prolapse where the bowel falls towards and narrows my vagina. I am still sexually active. Do I A) leave it, but it won’t get better and may even get worse. B) have a ring put in that helps to hold it back or C) Go for the operation if it doesn’t involve the mesh that has sadly left a lot of women in pain?

Any help from any experience welcome, please.

Ohmother Fri 14-Jun-24 16:05:45

rectocele

Ohmother Fri 14-Jun-24 16:02:08

Update as I haven’t been on here for a while. I saw the consultant gynae and she gave me the option of having it operated on, day surgery, 12 weeks recovery. Said there was a nine month waiting list. I’ve put myself on the list and will decide for good last minute. When I find the correct medical term for what I’ve got I’ll post it.

Debbi58 Fri 14-Jun-24 14:26:00

I had the surgery 3 years ago at 57 , I had no option as was severe. Op went well and touch wood, no problems since . I'm no longer sexually active though. They stiched the entrance to my vagina too much 🤦‍♀️ , but as hubbie has problems in that area . I don't see the point in having further surgery to correct it . Sorry if that's too much info, but if it's important to you, might be worth mentioning it to your surgeon

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Riley64 Fri 14-Jun-24 09:51:34

Hi just been told at GP I have a bladder prolapse just wondered if anyone else suffered the horrendous pain I am having and what did you take to relieve it?

GrannyIris5 Mon 08-May-23 13:36:41

I had a bladder repair with mesh and bowel prolapse operation in 2009. Bladder caused leaks again after few years and some sort of prolapse started in December. Wish somebody had told me these ops weren’t that permanent. Hope to get ring pessary this week and appointment with physio end of month. Who’d be a woman?

Sophiasnana Sun 01-Jan-23 12:40:22

I have had two prolapse ops (mesh inserted) and they worked for a few months, then it was worse than ever. I had a Gellhorn pessary fitted two years ago, and its now great. Downside is you cant have sex with this inserted, and it needs to be inserted, checked and removed as an out patient at hosp twice yearly.

B9exchange Sat 31-Dec-22 00:21:32

I had a severe prolapse repaired with a hysterectomy at the young age of 39, which lasted for 27 years, and then I had a vault prolapse repair 7 years ago. I didn't want mesh used, but the surgeon insisted it would be fine, and I haven't had any trouble since, though I am glad it is no longer being used. I would say go for the op, pay privately if you can, it just makes such a difference, like getting your life back!

Elusivebutterfly Fri 30-Dec-22 19:48:34

I had surgery for prolapse. My GP recommended surgery as an alternative to possibly being very elderly frail in a nursing home and still having to have a pessary changed.
I knew I had a vaginal prolapse which needed hysterectomy. During my six month wait for this the prolapse worsened from stage 2 to stage 4 (the worst). I also needed bladder and bowel prolapse repair.
I would definitely recommend surgery. Recovery was slow but I felt so much better and prolapse won't go away.

Delila Fri 30-Dec-22 19:18:35

Thanks Maggiemay, that’s awful. It sounds an unacceptably long wait for, presumably, surgery, so I suppose it will have to be the private route. I hope you can get things moving and get back to enjoying life, the sooner the better.

Maggymay Fri 30-Dec-22 19:00:27

Delila This was the second pessary I tried the ring pessary fell out immediately and the shelf pessary was so painful to insert and even more painful taking out left me sore and bruised.
My Doctor said it is really too advanced now for another pessary.

Iam64 Fri 30-Dec-22 18:49:15

This discussion is one of the real benefits of gransnet. Where else can we talk easily like this

Delila Fri 30-Dec-22 18:42:23

Maggymay, do you mind if I ask whether you’ve had another pessary fitted in the meantime?

Maggymay Fri 30-Dec-22 18:27:34

My prolapse is getting worse stage 4 now, pessaries do not work
I had a shelf pessary recently fitted it was very uncomfortable and when it was removed the Doctor struggled for 20 minutes to remove it.
There is a 2 year waiting list after being referred,so I think I am going to look at having it done privately,I am 72 and just want to enjoy life again.

MissAdventure Fri 30-Dec-22 17:58:09

I'm sure it must be better, medically, to get it done out of the way.
Stuff "springs back" when you're young(er)

SueDonim Fri 30-Dec-22 17:50:26

I waited over 2.5yrs for my op, MissAdventure and my condition definitely worsened in that time and restricted my life. I hadn’t realised by how much until I had the repair and suddenly, life was different!

There’s also the question of age - are you likely to recover more easily, the younger you are?

MissAdventure Fri 30-Dec-22 17:46:01

I wonder if there is a benefit to having the op sooner rather than later?

I would have thought so, in terms of the amount of prolapse?

Delila Fri 30-Dec-22 17:45:32

Very interesting Coolgran65. I have found that my local NHS hospital womens health department does not have anything like a full range of pessary types or sizes. A basic requirement, I would have thought.

kirflyn Fri 30-Dec-22 17:42:01

I had a bowel prolapse over five years ago. It wasn't gradual, I became aware of it the night before I was going on holiday.
I spent a very uncomfortable time abroad and opted for a private operation when I returned.
The waiting lists were so long.
Two nights in hospital and a few weeks to feel stronger. It was definitely the right choice for me. Thinking of you x

Ohmother Fri 30-Dec-22 17:12:41

Thanks grandtanteJE65 but it definitely is a bowel prolapse. Sorry you endured what you did. 🙁

grandtanteJE65 Fri 30-Dec-22 16:51:47

First: are you absolutely certain that the diagnosis is correct?

I am asking because five gynaeocologists all diagnosed fibroids of the uterus, based on ultrasound scans and internal examinations and advised a hysterectomy for a similar problem that I had. They all agreed that the growths were not a cancer, which was a relief, but hummed and hawed about what they were before deciding on fibroids.

Being 69 at the time, I agreed to a hysterectomy and was somewhat startled on coming round from the anaesthetic to be told by the nurse that the surgeon would be up to see me to explain, but that he had said I did not have massive fibroids and that he had left my uterus in place, as what I had had, and he had removed, was a gigantic ovarian cyst!

So it might pay to ask whether what they are calling a proplapse of the bowel could be anything else. Ultrasound is apparently not as infallible as we all thought!

Next if you are confident that your consultant does know what he or she is talking about, ask which treatment they advise as best in the long term, and whether an operation is necessary or could be avoided or postponed by other treatment.

Even if you are a health professional it is hard to remain emotionally detached when it is your own health we are talkig about, and no-one except a consultant who has actually seen you can, or should, advise.

That said, postponing an op. is perhaps unwise, as you will tend to worry that it might be necessary at some point, and because the older one is the more serious surgery becomes.

I hope you reach a solution that solves the problem

SueDonim Fri 30-Dec-22 16:34:32

I recently had a repair for a bladder prolapse. The rings didn’t work and were not a long-term solution for me, I was told. I had actually expected to have a hysterectomy but it was changed to a repair at the last minute. It all went smoothly with no external stitches and I went home the next day.

The only bit I was 🤔 about is that it has a one-in-three failure rate. I’ve told myself that means a two-in-three success rate. It’s certainly made a positive difference to my life, so far. smile

Ohmother Fri 30-Dec-22 16:28:25

These replies and experiences are really helpful to making my decision. Keep them coming, please. 🙏🏻

Allsorts Fri 30-Dec-22 15:28:16

I think I would try other methods before operation. If they don’t work then a rethink.

Greyduster Fri 30-Dec-22 15:21:26

The op to repair a vaginal prolapse involves no mesh and you will be in and out of hospital in no time. I had one and have never looked back. I used a ring pessary for years - I wish I had opted for surgery much earlier.