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Prolapse. Decision to make.

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Ohmother Fri 30-Dec-22 06:51:44

I have the prolapse where the bowel falls towards and narrows my vagina. I am still sexually active. Do I A) leave it, but it won’t get better and may even get worse. B) have a ring put in that helps to hold it back or C) Go for the operation if it doesn’t involve the mesh that has sadly left a lot of women in pain?

Any help from any experience welcome, please.

Sparklefizz Fri 30-Dec-22 08:05:19

.... or Plan D) Do some advanced pelvic floor exercises ( see www.hab-it.com). I followed these and after 6 weeks I had pulled up both my front and back prolapses.

Iam64 Fri 30-Dec-22 08:34:54

Sparkle - the link doesn’t work. Can you name the site please

lemsip Fri 30-Dec-22 08:54:28

just google Hab-it.com worked for me

DaisyAlice Fri 30-Dec-22 09:14:34

I had three different sizes of ring pessary fitted for my prolapse. They didn't fall out but all of them shifted position and were of no use. My GP has referred me to Gyne for specialist advise regarding surgery but she says it is often not successful in the long term. The mesh system is no longer performed. I was told to loose some weight and to do pelvic floor exercises. I was prescribed Ovestin vaginal cream which strengthens the vaginal walls. I have been using a Kegel8 machine for three months and am just beginning to feel some improvement. It's not cheap at about £180 but money well spent if it gives me results.

Sparklefizz Fri 30-Dec-22 09:18:50

Iam64

Sparkle - the link doesn’t work. Can you name the site please

I don't know why that is. Try this.
www.hab-it.com/downloads/hab-it-pelvic-floor-exercises-digital-download/

Ohmother Fri 30-Dec-22 13:41:22

Sparklefizz

.... or Plan D) Do some advanced pelvic floor exercises ( see www.hab-it.com). I followed these and after 6 weeks I had pulled up both my front and back prolapses.

Have had those at hospital. Dr said mine’s gone too far for that now. 🤷‍♀️

Bea65 Fri 30-Dec-22 13:48:31

Still waiting on my prolapse repair...but the Community Bladder and Bowel Service nurses are very attentive with scans and arranging Abena products so hope your GP has referred you to this service as the NHS waiting list is endless...

MissAdventure Fri 30-Dec-22 13:51:36

I think I'd go for the less invasive option first (but then, I am cowardly)

Delila Fri 30-Dec-22 14:17:02

I too have been told by my gynaecologist that surgery doesn’t always work and can lead to further problems. After a failure (wrong-sized pessary) I am now getting good results from the correct size and type of pessary.

So far so good 🤞

Ohmother Fri 30-Dec-22 14:18:54

Pessary Delilah? Is that what I’m referring to as a ring?

Ohmother Fri 30-Dec-22 14:19:28

Delila sorry

joannapiano Fri 30-Dec-22 14:22:22

I had the op. Four years ago now and everything fine, I was in hospital 3 days.

Delila Fri 30-Dec-22 14:22:47

Yes, sorry, ring pessary always just called a pessary by my gynaecologist.

joannapiano Fri 30-Dec-22 14:23:43

PS. I don’t think the mesh is used anymore as it’s use was so disastrous.

Delila Fri 30-Dec-22 14:24:16

But some are rings & others are “shelves”!

Coolgran65 Fri 30-Dec-22 15:04:54

I have a bowel prolapse in my vagina but no symptoms. I am 73 and still sexually active. My GP suggested a pessary which was comfortable but at each 3 month check I was found to have thrush. No symptoms. After this happened we decided to forego the pessary as I felt no difference when using it.
GP referred me to gynae but waiting list was so long I paid for a private consultation. The consultant said he would suggest doing nothing as it was in early stages and prescribed Estoril hrt cream as he saw I was very ‘dry’. He also did an internal scan just to make sure all was good and as it should be. The cream has made a great difference in my comfort which was nothing to do with the prolapse.
Just to note the consultant advised that the pessaries provided by GPs are very basic and if I had needed a pessary his would have been of a higher standard.

Greyduster Fri 30-Dec-22 15:21:26

The op to repair a vaginal prolapse involves no mesh and you will be in and out of hospital in no time. I had one and have never looked back. I used a ring pessary for years - I wish I had opted for surgery much earlier.

Allsorts Fri 30-Dec-22 15:28:16

I think I would try other methods before operation. If they don’t work then a rethink.

Ohmother Fri 30-Dec-22 16:28:25

These replies and experiences are really helpful to making my decision. Keep them coming, please. 🙏🏻

SueDonim Fri 30-Dec-22 16:34:32

I recently had a repair for a bladder prolapse. The rings didn’t work and were not a long-term solution for me, I was told. I had actually expected to have a hysterectomy but it was changed to a repair at the last minute. It all went smoothly with no external stitches and I went home the next day.

The only bit I was 🤔 about is that it has a one-in-three failure rate. I’ve told myself that means a two-in-three success rate. It’s certainly made a positive difference to my life, so far. smile

grandtanteJE65 Fri 30-Dec-22 16:51:47

First: are you absolutely certain that the diagnosis is correct?

I am asking because five gynaeocologists all diagnosed fibroids of the uterus, based on ultrasound scans and internal examinations and advised a hysterectomy for a similar problem that I had. They all agreed that the growths were not a cancer, which was a relief, but hummed and hawed about what they were before deciding on fibroids.

Being 69 at the time, I agreed to a hysterectomy and was somewhat startled on coming round from the anaesthetic to be told by the nurse that the surgeon would be up to see me to explain, but that he had said I did not have massive fibroids and that he had left my uterus in place, as what I had had, and he had removed, was a gigantic ovarian cyst!

So it might pay to ask whether what they are calling a proplapse of the bowel could be anything else. Ultrasound is apparently not as infallible as we all thought!

Next if you are confident that your consultant does know what he or she is talking about, ask which treatment they advise as best in the long term, and whether an operation is necessary or could be avoided or postponed by other treatment.

Even if you are a health professional it is hard to remain emotionally detached when it is your own health we are talkig about, and no-one except a consultant who has actually seen you can, or should, advise.

That said, postponing an op. is perhaps unwise, as you will tend to worry that it might be necessary at some point, and because the older one is the more serious surgery becomes.

I hope you reach a solution that solves the problem

Ohmother Fri 30-Dec-22 17:12:41

Thanks grandtanteJE65 but it definitely is a bowel prolapse. Sorry you endured what you did. 🙁

kirflyn Fri 30-Dec-22 17:42:01

I had a bowel prolapse over five years ago. It wasn't gradual, I became aware of it the night before I was going on holiday.
I spent a very uncomfortable time abroad and opted for a private operation when I returned.
The waiting lists were so long.
Two nights in hospital and a few weeks to feel stronger. It was definitely the right choice for me. Thinking of you x

Delila Fri 30-Dec-22 17:45:32

Very interesting Coolgran65. I have found that my local NHS hospital womens health department does not have anything like a full range of pessary types or sizes. A basic requirement, I would have thought.