Camilla

…. A vacuous, self absorbed woman wh would in no way have been fit to be a future Queen

That’s your opinion Saerana and of course you’re free to express it, many might agree with your point of view. I couldn’t describe Diana in this way. I share the view that Diana had a tough deal at age 19. Like many from her social background, including Prince Charles, her childhood wasn’t one that produced a stable, well rounded individual.

It’s called hindsight. Here we are decades down the road and we see, read, understand more of how Princess Diana (femme fatale) was as a person. Love her or hate her, it was a soap opera for the world to feast on.

Let’s face it… Charles was a “guy” like any other, first and foremost and his testosterone lead him to Camilla.

Would she have made a good Queen? Personally, I think, not as good as Camilla will be. (And I loved Princess Di.)
USA Gundy

Camilla would always have been Queen - the wife of a King is always a Queen (take the Queen's mother for example), technically they are Queen Consort but every wife of a King has been called just Queen following their coronation. It is different for the husband of a Queen Regnant (Queen in her own right by right of birth) such as Philip and Albert - as the title of Queen is subordinate to that of King, they are titled Prince and are technically Prince Consorts. Its really not that difficult to understand if you know your British history. I have no issues with Camilla and cannot understand the obsession with Diana who was a vacuous self-absorbed woman who would in no way have been fit to be a future Queen.

Only some of the country was breaking its heart over Diana’s death, the same way as only some of the country are for or against Camilla.
Some had as poor an opinion of Diana as others now have about Camilla.

Agree with you Koalama. Camilla has had a good whitewash treatment from newspapers and other media. To soften us up for her coronation. Must have been an expensive exercise as it’s so telentless

25 years ago the country was breaking its heart over Diana's death. And Camilla was loathed by many. Camilla's OK, just OK & I think King Charles has improved greatly. So sad that in what seems a relatively short time, most people have forgotten Diana's charisma and immediacy & beauty & courage & complacently say most of it was her own fault & Camilla will be a better queen.
I'll watch for the history and the music & because King Charles seems vulnerable & so I want him to do well.

There seems to be a lot of weight being given to whether Camilla will be known as Queen Consort or Queen. There is no difference. The wife of a ruling monarch is always given the honorary title of queen, while the male spouse of a queen regnant is always known as a consort (unless, like Queen Mary I’s husband Philip, who was king in his own right, although if Spain, not England, or William III, who was invited to share the throne with Mary to strengthen the Protestant monarchy).

I still have not discovered why this was posted under "Health".

And probably never will.

A lot of what Diana said in the Panorama interview, (which has influenced people's attitude to her marriage) was put into her mind by Martin Bashir. Twiggy pregnant by Charles, forged bank statements etc. etc. Bashir is at the back of a lot of the current thinking, and most of it was manipulative wickedness on his part, assisted by her brother.

I don’t have a problem with it. He should of been allowed to marry her in the first place.

Keffie12
This everyone I speak to and know makes me laugh. So what?
I can equally say that everyone I speak to and know is going to be either watching it or taking part in a celebratory party, or even both.
Since posting or reading on GN is a form of speaking or listening to others, neither your statement or mine is absolutely true.
I expect there will be arguments that, since we are all anonymous, we don’t know each other, but is posting on GN like talking into a void or do posters expect a response to their posts, like in a conversation.

We don't really know what she wanted but the Palace did. Her dating life wasn't out of the ordinary, but she was seen by the palace as "experienced" — and because the relationships were public knowledge, Camilla couldn't put up a pretense of purity. There you go - had to be a virgin back in 1981 (if you were a Royal) !

No time for her, Charles or any of them. Diana was a lamb to the slaughter. Camilla helped set up that marriage. Diana wasn't perfect no one is.

She was used as a breeding machine and discarded when H was born as the heir and the spare were now provided.

With her difficult childhood and used as she was it's no wonder she had M/H problems. Her affairs were a response and looking for love.

Camilla and Chatles never stopped seeing each other.

As for Camilla she has been proved as all the royal leaks, lies and twisting of the truth have come from her.

After the Queen passed the monarchy finished for me.

I don't care that Charles and Camilla are good for each other. They are alive. Diana isn't.

The country would probably be more accepting of them, if Diana had lived.

Everyone I speak to and know of aren't interested in the ConANation

Reports ? all from the media, or did she have a medical examination and the results published .

Diana herself said ‘I knew I had to keep myself tidy’ ,

I know Mollygo but the reports seem consistent

and if we believe what the press say, Diana was a virgin when she married Charles
But we are endlessly told on GN, not believe what the press say.

Elaine48

Anniebach

One would think a woman who had allegedly suffered the hurt of her husband’s alleged affair wouldn’t have at least three affairs with married men and with a man engaged to be married.

People who have been very hurt emotionally can suffer dreadfully, especially if they are fairly young. Emotional hurt may lead to mental instability and poor decision making - a seeking for love and reassurance.

This, and if we believe what the press say, Diana was a virgin when she married Charles. She became a very beautiful woman, men sought her out. She had some affairs - off with her head

It would have been wonderful if Charles and Diana had lived
‘ happily ever after ‘, but it wasn’t to be, and that’s life. At one time, divorce would have been unthinkable, but times have changed. It freed Diana to get on with her life, which, of course, sadly wasn’t a long one.

Anniebach

One would think a woman who had allegedly suffered the hurt of her husband’s alleged affair wouldn’t have at least three affairs with married men and with a man engaged to be married.

People who have been very hurt emotionally can suffer dreadfully, especially if they are fairly young. Emotional hurt may lead to mental instability and poor decision making - a seeking for love and reassurance.

My alternative title for the Queen Consort has been deleted.

Sorry, Grans. I blush . . .

I didn't think the the term 'Commoner' to describe her was accurate.

It has a very specific meaning in my county - it implies the right (held by a very few) to graze sheep, ponies, cattle and donkeys.

Anniebach

Her mother bought her the London flat. She gave advice not to
get involved with Fayed.

How on earth does anyone know that these things are true?!
And of what relevance are they?

Some posters have very rigid views and those views are not to be denied under any circumstances

🤣🤣🤣 past it on its not a football it doesn’t work that way. Trot down to the library and get some history book’s. Diane died many years ago life goes on. He got remarried to the woman he loves long live queen Camille to upset ppl like you 🤣🤣🤣

One would think a woman who had allegedly suffered the hurt of her husband’s alleged affair wouldn’t have at least three affairs with married men and with a man engaged to be married.

Not.a royalist by any means but Charles and Camilla do seem to be well suited. I haven't got any particular feelings re Camilla but I don't think highly of Charles. He used Diana to give him heirs and it appears was unfaithful to her from the start and became jealous of her charisma and popularity. Not a man to be respected imo.

Charles is not autistic. His presentation is as a result of his very odd upbringing and miserable time at school.
Diana never committed adultery until after she'd found out how Charles had been cynically carrying on behind her back.