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Why are we angry?

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coco12 Thu 17-Aug-23 20:54:31

Is it just me that is finding that everyone is angry at the moment? Including myself I have to add shamefully. There are probably lots of reasons but I feel there has been a big shift since lockdown opened up. Wondered what your thoughts are?

GoldenAge Sat 19-Aug-23 12:17:04

It's not people arriving in rubber dinghies that are causing problems with the delivery of healthcare. It's a decade and a half of Tory austerity. I recommend a work of fiction the Beekeeper of Aleppo for anyone who thinks that people who try to smuggle themselves into the UK have an easy time of it, and I offer the information that this country needs migrants since invariably they bring skills and qualifications that we are desperately short of, and they pay taxes and hence contribute towards the pension system. When cushioned Brits get angry about fellow human beings wanting not to see their wives raped in front of them, or their children beheaded (yes, this happens) taking the brave step of trying to escape, I too get angry at their selfishness and short-sightedness. Why not focus on campaigning for a different type of government. Yes, we do have to wait for NHS appointments and hunt around for a dentist - but that's not the fault of migrants.

Susieq62 Sat 19-Aug-23 12:20:41

I am only angry about intolerant racist remarks from those who do not do their homework about issues!
I do lose my cool at bad drivers! And I am furious at how this Gov had decimated my beloved country ! However, I know my family and friends are generally upbeat , content, grateful and if we all do one small thing to help another then life would be even better !!

Saggi Sat 19-Aug-23 12:34:00

I’m angry about just one thing …..no doctors or hospital appointments ….I’ve tried for six weeks to get to ‘see’ a doctor….🤷🏻‍♀️

garnet25 Sat 19-Aug-23 12:44:33

Thank you GoldenAge. You have stated my views extremely well.

bobbydog24 Sat 19-Aug-23 12:51:43

I am an anxious person and the past 4 years have been a real trial. I too think people are less tolerant, not as sociable and seem glass half empty. I can understand it to a degree with all that has happened and is happening but it is so sad that life is so miserable for a lot of people and there doesn’t seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel.
I have just spent a week on holiday with my daughter and grandchildren and I feel rejuvenated. Being with them every day was so enjoyable.
Now what is to look forward to. Cold, rain and being frightened to turn your heating on.

cc Sat 19-Aug-23 12:55:32

cornergran

I’m angry. Angry at the struggle to get adequate health care for my husband after major cardiac surgery. Can’t fault the hospital care, just their expectation of what primary care can provide. The GP practice is doing its best, primary care just can’t provide what is needed from transport through to monitoring. So yes, I’m angry.

Our last GP missed my husband's serious heart failure twice, then a locum picked it up when I insisted he go again. The last one said "Can you get yourself to hospital now or should I call an ambulance. Would be quicker to take yourself".
However we've moved house now and our new GP is wonderful, getting in touch to make appointments for blood tests etc. He has regular hospital checks and medication updates, with all hospital medication changes going through the GP so both know what is going on.
In our case I think it may be due to an increased incidence of cardiac problems in the area, which has a larger proportion of asian patients, so the hospital system is excellent.

BevSec Sat 19-Aug-23 13:18:02

Agree with you totally

Brigidsdaughter Sat 19-Aug-23 13:26:43

MOnica Very well said

Pippa22 Sat 19-Aug-23 13:39:00

Primrose 53, everyone I know is totally exasperated at the numbers of uninvited arrivals to our shores and by the politicians lack of action and even their unwillingness to acknowledge that this influx of people to our small island is causing problems. It seems as if when we state the obvious that doctors, schools, dentists, police, housing are at breaking point that we are racist. This is far from the truth but I think the majority of people are fed up with taking second place in our own country for services. If you are a wealthy politician none of the problems affect you. I get on with anyone and am supportive of people from other countries who arrive here legitimately but not the cowards who arrive leaving the women and children to survive alone somehow in their countries.

Kartush Sat 19-Aug-23 14:10:35

I think perhaps as we get older and have more time on our hands we notice more things, for instance that there are a lot of belligerent people around.
Social media is a breeding ground for them. In the last week I have found myself embroiled in a debate with quite angry people over a book for heavens sake.

Okdokey08 Sat 19-Aug-23 14:37:55

I don’t know if it’s anger or despair I have, despair about people not being able to get an appointment with a GP, or a GP who actually takes the time to get to the bottom of the problem, or be dismissed because I’ve “retired” nowadays treated as “expired” and not worth the effort to find a cause never mind a cure. Strikes everywhere, foodbanks that are being abused by some people who have enough but want freebies, charity shops who are now charging almost same prices as buying new, supermarkets who are putting out inferior fresh foods, some even past sell by date. Political parties ( Begins with S ends in P) wasting thousands on hopeless projects and contracts to the detriment of the people in the country, also giving freebies for votes, other parties squabbling with with each other with the same goal in mind ( become a leader) … none of them fit to tie the meekest person in the lands shoelaces… and you know what I’ve learned from all of this….. that sheep have votes.

cc Sat 19-Aug-23 15:03:59

NotSpaghetti

I live in a relatively poor area M0nica - and, strangely enough, no one has mentioned people coming into this country in rubber dinghies here either.

I don't know where the poster can be living if they know a lot of people who are very angry about the daily influx of hundreds of people on rubber dinghies..

People where I live, are also waiting for social housing, dental care, operations, school places etc. I don’t really think they are seen as related issues here.

I don't hear people talk about it much openly in our relatively affluent area either, I think they don't want to be seen as racist. Some people I know very well do mention it in relation to waiting lists and A&E attendance, which they have observed, perhaps it's something they wouldn't speak about to someone they don't know well.

ruthiek Sat 19-Aug-23 15:14:43

Coco 12 I have said exactly the same , I thought coming out of the pandemic we would be kinder but it’s the opposite😪

Oreo Sat 19-Aug-23 15:15:39

GrannyGravy13

The angry people I come across are on GN along with vox pops on news bulletins and politicians (difficult to tell if politicos are angry or just shouty)

In every day life family and friends are just living their lives the best they can, taking things in their stride.

Same here😄
SM is awash with angry people it’s the ideal medium for them.

Fleurpepper Sat 19-Aug-23 15:23:23

You enjoy making those passive aggressive 'attacks' don't you. Anyone who is sad, angry, disappointed at what has been happening to the country in past 14 years, are either 'bored' or 'angry'.

Nothing of the sort - we who are as described above have positive, fun, active and interesting lives- totally irrespective of our anger about those events and disasters.

Joseann Sat 19-Aug-23 15:24:59

I think there's a difference between anger and aggression, the latter being far more harmful even on SM.
I have a dog, so a few minutes stroking stops me feeling angry and lowers my blood pressure!

SheepyIzzy Sat 19-Aug-23 15:55:55

Pippa22

Primrose 53, everyone I know is totally exasperated at the numbers of uninvited arrivals to our shores and by the politicians lack of action and even their unwillingness to acknowledge that this influx of people to our small island is causing problems. It seems as if when we state the obvious that doctors, schools, dentists, police, housing are at breaking point that we are racist. This is far from the truth but I think the majority of people are fed up with taking second place in our own country for services. If you are a wealthy politician none of the problems affect you. I get on with anyone and am supportive of people from other countries who arrive here legitimately but not the cowards who arrive leaving the women and children to survive alone somehow in their countries.

Well said! I'm not angry, I'm tired, I admit i'm depressed, I feel as if I have to worry about everything, because mum says it doesn't matter, just pay the bill. Mums knees are shot, she's constantly in pain, for years, when she was able, they wouldn't replace them due to poor circulation, now, because of long waiting lists, she's suddenly able to get them done, but has been warned that the risk is higher she's told them no thanks, she doesn't want to die! (Still in pain though!) I've unexpectedly lost 2 dogs, 7 months apart, the 1st we had to let her go, it was cruel otherwise as her legs kept giving way, the 2nd, fell ill and we lost her April 21st 5 days later and I still can't get over it, to say I'm heartbroken is an understatement. My eldest sister seems to think I'm angry, I'm not, i'm not allowed to be. In the first few years of looking after mum all was well but since 2006 I've had to bite my tongue due to above sister (oldest so knows best and mum doesn't like conflict!) Basically I've had to suppress everything and now at 49, I suppose my hormones are changing and it's getting harder to not let rip! Pressure cooker I know! Not angry though, just tired, so tired and grieving!

Oreo Sat 19-Aug-23 15:57:28

growstuff

Since 2017, I've worked quite hard not to get angry about anything I can't change. It's just not worth it. If I can make a difference, I try hard to do that too.

👍🏻 A good way to be

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 19-Aug-23 16:54:13

I agree. Getting angry about things over which you have no control is a waste of energy and life. Save your energy for things you can change.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 19-Aug-23 17:49:19

I think that being permanently angry at things you have no control over must be extremely stressful, and not conducive to one’s wellbeing.

Beautyandthebeast Sat 19-Aug-23 17:57:05

I totally agree with you!

ReadyMeals Sat 19-Aug-23 18:01:28

I am irritated by all the fuss about gender neutral toilets. All they have to do is stop creating communal toilet rooms and make every toilet into a separate lockable room with its own sink and room for a buggy or baby changing table and then everyone would have the privacy they need whether it be to change a colostomy bag or to be transgender or to take your kids in with you or whatever else. Same with changing rooms. Why does there always have to be some category of people under attack?

Cornishgreenhouse Sat 19-Aug-23 18:05:28

I have never heard anyone complain about people coming in boats to our country for help. Heaven forbid the complainers might have been born in a country that meant they were living in fear for their lives or at risk of harm.
I think people are more angry, less tolerant and everyone out for themselves. The first lockdown saw folk coming together but by the second one it was disappearing. I also think young people are introduced to violence and anger on screen from such an early age - sadly it becomes normal.

MerylStreep Sat 19-Aug-23 18:30:12

I couldn’t agree with GranyGravy & GSM more.
I certainly do shout of few expletives at certain politicians and now it’s certain NHS managers. 😡
But it doesn’t last. The usual glass full Meryl returns.

Kayteetay1 Sat 19-Aug-23 18:43:23

Poignant observation. I agree and know my mental wellbeing would be better if I could remove myself from social media. I feel myself withdrawing from the outside world as most times I go out I find myself encountering bad behaviour from others be it driving or ASB in town centres. I work from home and miss the good old days of kindness and social interaction. I worry so much for my new granddaughter and wonder how her life will be in this battered world.