Thanks all, I just looked up those things, I didn't know about the Brandt daroff exercise but I found it easily online but I'm going to do it, I had never thought of going to a chiropractor but I will now, nor have I had my ears checked but I will, is that done at specsavers or the gp nowadays? I did stop taking the antidepressant (Lofepramine) which is a painkiller a few months ago but it hurt so much I went back on it but at a smaller dose & I cope with a bit of pain. I get a bit peeved that a condition which leads to loss of sensation doesn't stop pain, but that's how it is. I didn't know spinal problems can be the cause, but I do have round shoulders too, to add to my list of complaints, thank you all sooooo much for your help, I'm going to. try all those things as well as ginger, which is supposed to help too, it helps with neurological conditions too, and I love it, which is just as well. I'll report back in a week or so, after bank holiday and let you know how it went