Latest virus...be cautious when out and about!

Marydoll Thanks so much I feel blessed to have such caring family & friends x

glammanana, I hope you are on the road to recovery. 💐

Biscuitmuncher
I really hope you never become poorly with Covid/Flu,I have just spent the worst 3 weeks of my life with Covid/Pheumonia both at the same time I was in Hospital for 7 days and I was so poorly I just can't remember anything of that week,the care I received was second to none the Drs & Nurses where so caring,all wearing masks and PPE.
I'm now slowly recovering but it is a slow process 3 x antibotics & steroids just completed so Biscuitmuncher I really hope you don't surcome to any infection with the ridiculous ideas which you hold and are entitled to have.

Grannynannywanny, that's exactly what I heard from my Cardiology and RA consultants who were seconded to Covid ICU.

I never saw an RA consultant, nor cardiologist in over two years, despite normally having three monthly appointments. My health deteriorated badly due to this.

Biscuitmuncher You should never reach conclusions from a sample of one.

My sister was killed when lorry knocked her off her bike. i did not immediately conclude that anyone who rode a bike would also be knocked off their bikes by a lorry and be killed. More improtantly, it did not stop me riding a bike, which i did for several years without mishap. It was a dodgy hip that stopped me cycling.

Biscuitmuncher
My son works in a shop, he served a young woman who had the vaccination because she works in a care home, she's been ill ever since having it

My daughter is an Nhs nurse with 15 years ICU experience. Most of the very seriously ill patients she cared for were unvaccinated by choice. Many of them didn’t survive. Can you begin to imagine going in to face a 12 hour shift in a large ICU full of patients in induced comas being artificially ventilated and many of them in their 20s and 30s. That was a common scenario during the worst of the pandemic.

In the early days of the vaccination programme pregnant mothers were advised not to vaccinate till after the birth. This advice quickly changed when evidence showed the level of risk in waiting. She witnessed many utterly heartbreaking scenes of ill mothers with covid being admitted in very premature labour . Usually too premature for the baby to survive. That’s the sort of EVIDENCE I heard on a daily basis from my daughter.

Biscuitmuncher

fancythat but I'm not immunosuppressed and neither were most people the vaccine was put into. My son works in a shop, he served a young woman who had the vaccination because she works in a care home, she's been ill ever since having it.

I've had six jabs and not one of them has made me feel ill.

You really need to reverse out of your rabbit hole and look at some facts. The vast majority of people who have been vaccinated have suffered no ill effects. On the contrary, they have benefited from having milder Covid symptoms.

Yes, there have been a handful of tragic consequences from vaccinations, but you need to put those in the context of the lives which have been saved and the debilitating consequences of Long Covid.

Just tested positive for a second time this morning! It was horrendous last time. Let's hope its turning out more like a cold this time.

Biscuitmuncher

fancythat but I'm not immunosuppressed and neither were most people the vaccine was put into. My son works in a shop, he served a young woman who had the vaccination because she works in a care home, she's been ill ever since having it.

This is the advice from GOV.UK for approx 600,000 people in the UK, who are immunocompromised.
The important message is keeping yourself safe.

Keeping yourself safe

If you have been advised by the NHS that you are in one of these groups, you are advised to:

ensure you have had all of the vaccines you are eligible to receive
continue to follow any condition-specific advice you may have been given by your specialist
Immunosuppression means you have a weakened immune system due to a particular health condition or because you are on medication or treatment that suppresses your immune system. People who are immunosuppressed, or who have specific other medical conditions, may have a reduced ability to fight infections and other diseases, including COVID-19.

Most people with immunosuppression will be under the care of a hospital specialist and/or known to their GP. As a result of this they will usually be eligible for either or both of:

additional vaccines including COVID-19 boosters

I didn't realise that you and your son were experts, Biscuitmuncher.
However, I still prefer to listen to and take advice from my clinicians and not a random, ill informed poster on GN.

By the way, you still haven't responded to any of the questions posted.
I sincerely hope you don't catch Covid and need hospital admission. If so, would you accept antivirals.

fancythat but I'm not immunosuppressed and neither were most people the vaccine was put into. My son works in a shop, he served a young woman who had the vaccination because she works in a care home, she's been ill ever since having it.

Biscuitmuncher Personally I do not care whether you back things up with "evidence" or not.
Your opinion is your opinion.

But I do care if anyone is a hypocrite.
And I suspect you might be.

You wont say what you would do if you were immunosuppressed.
You therefore maybe, expect those to not have the vaccination. Whereas, if you got to that point yourself, you may well do.
Not on.

Biscuitmuncher

Growstuff I can't remember ever saying I was scared of covid

Search your past posts. You've written you were frightened of vaccinations and the effects of masks and lockdowns.

Most people have benefited from vaccinations and wearing masks and stoically accepted lockdown, even though implementation of lockdowns and mitigations were very badly handled.

Growstuff I can't remember ever saying I was scared of covid

It worries me that people are not having a booster. The effectiveness of a covid jab wanes over a few months - hence the need for a booster, and they are also engineered to protect against the latest variants. No wonder covid is still rife. Maybe the lack of publicity about the level of covid cases gives a false sense of security?

Biscuitmuncher In the past, you've admitted you're scared. I find it quite weird that you try to twist facts in an attempt to make people as scared as you are.

Being vaccinated or not is a personal choice. I have no problem with that.
It's the unsubstantiated conspiracy nonsense which irritates me. I make a point of researching the suitability, the side effects and effectiveness of the vaccine for people like me. It's all about about balance.
I refused Astra Zeneca and insisted on Moderna, because I knew that AZ was unsuitable for immunocompromised patients. That was because I looked at the scientific evidence.

However, there are those of us, who being immunocompromised, have little or no choice. Either we lock ourselves away or are vaccinated.

Germanshepherdsmum

Biscuitmuncher could catch covid and pass it on to someone else with fatal consequences. Would she feel any remorse? I live in fear of such people.

As do I!
The no-one will tell me what to do brigade.

A part of me wonders if Biscuitmuncher genuinely believes what she posts or is it done to wind posters up.

Primrose53

I got the flu jab but not the covid one this time. I am not an anti vaxer just don’t want any more covid jabs.

Exactly the same for me, Primrose

Biscuitmuncher could catch covid and pass it on to someone else with fatal consequences. Would she feel any remorse? I live in fear of such people.

Biscuitmuncher, you have been asked on numerous occasions to back up your claims with scientific evidence, you never do so.
Neither do you answer any of the questions posed to you. Would you refuse treatment and anti virals in ICU?

With any drug/vaccine there will be cases of severe side effects, (including Astra Zeneca) as I know to my cost on a number of occasions. However, the alternative is worse.

Obviously you know better than the scientists and clinicians.
There is little credibility in your claims, without evidence.

Marydoll what about the lawsuits against AstraZeneca? Also the above average deaths. The inflammation of the heart in young people?

M0nica

*fancythat*, Biscuitmuncher never replies to any questions as to the knowledge basis for her conclusions or actions.

As they say, she has made up her mind, the last thing she wants to do is confuse it with facts.

Whenever I read her nonsense posts, I ask myself, if on becoming seriously ill with Covid, would Biscuitmuncher expect to receive anti virals etc or refuse treatment in hospital, because of her beliefs,?

I have said this in previous posts. My cardiologist told me he had never witnessed such devastating heart damage, as he witnessed in Covid ICU and the majority of those patients were unvaccinated.

I have seen that it is possible that the latest strain of c19 isn't easily detected by the current lateral flow tests. So it's possible that a negative test doesn't mean that you don't have covid.

The more I read about how covid affects the body in the long term the more angry I become that the government has abandoned all effort to doing anything about it. Apart from installing state of the art air filtration in parliament, of course...

Also, why let facts get in the way of a good prejudice.

fancythat, Biscuitmuncher never replies to any questions as to the knowledge basis for her conclusions or actions.

As they say, she has made up her mind, the last thing she wants to do is confuse it with facts.