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Sleep Apnoea

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Franbern Sat 25-Nov-23 09:19:58

I seem to have developed this. It is causing me to feel very tired a lot of the time, even falling asleep when I am with other people. So, I asked my GP to refer me to a sleep clinic
I have nw been told that I cannot be referred as my BMI is over 30!!!!! Yes, that is true, and yes I am slightly overweight. BUT at nearly 83 years of age, I have no intention of trying to alter my very healthy eating habits to try to reduce my weight. (Even that GP has iewed my food diary and agreed that I eat very healthily) In any case, I know I would not get below 30 BMI. The only time I was below that in the last forty years was when I was extremly ill and skinny with ulcerative colitus.

Cannot understand how BMI, based on 1930's middle class white men, should be able to prevent me receiving NHS treatment for this sleep condition. I do not smoke, or drink alcohol, cannot exercise due severe mobility problems. Just eat three healthy meals each day. Do not appear obese,.

Just anther way of privatising a section of medicine. I am certain if I said I would go private, suddenly my BMI would not be mentioned

Georgesgran Sat 25-Nov-23 09:34:18

Not sure if it helps but there are lots of machines to buy on the sleep apnoea website that promise to help with this condition. Some are cheap, some £hundreds.
My Sis in Law who is a very sprightly 77, slightly underweight as she walks and dances a lot was also told by her GP to just ‘lump it’ because she’s slim and otherwise healthy.

ronib Sat 25-Nov-23 09:49:37

Have you thought of trying traditional Chinese medicine since NHS can’t help?

I have had better sleep since taking a magnesium supplement. Your gp has ordered blood tests?

Have you tried chair Pilates to get some toning exercises? Are you a lot over 30 on BMI? Bit of a conundrum….

Primrose53 Sat 25-Nov-23 12:56:09

My husband was diagnosed with sleep apnoea in Aug/sept and they are taking it very seriously. He has always been able to fall asleep on a pin. This was only discovered as he has extremely high blood pressure and despite being on about 6 different BP meds it hardly comes down. Sleep apnoea can cause high BP.

Have you had yours checked Franbern?

He is not overweight, does not smoke, hardly drinks and is not a stressy person. He is physically active and eats a good diet.
He is now on his 4th face mask via NHS and awaiting his second machine because they are all very noisy and do not seal properly around the nose. We are very conscious that the masks cost about £150 each and the machines double that which is a terrible waste of money but they just don’t allow any of us to sleep at night.

glammanana Sat 25-Nov-23 13:07:07

One of mmy S.I.Ls friends actually fell asleep in her DRs surgery before she was taken seriously she now has a mask which she wears every night and it is very unconfortable indeed.

M0nica Sat 25-Nov-23 15:36:30

Dh was diagnosed with sleep apnoea about5 years ago and his GP took it very seriously, eveen though he was overweight. In fcat obesity s the cause of most, but of course, not all cases of sleep apnuea.

It sounds to me Franbern that this 30 plus apnoea treatment ban is a your GP special.

Sleep apnoea can lead to all kinds of other medical problems

Franbern here is a link to the NICE Guidelines for the treatment of Sleep Apnoea, while it mentions the 30 BMI score, it says nothing about people with that being excluded from treatment.

So printout out the NICE Guide lines, stiffen your back bone and try to see another GP and try again, asnd do not accept any conditions or worries that are not in the Guidelines.
www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng202

Franbern Sun 26-Nov-23 08:11:24

Thanks,, Monica, my children have also told me to check to see if what I have been told is true. I have had high BP for many years and keep it under control with a cocktail of medications.

I fell asleep a few weeks ago, late one morning whilst sitting around a table at a committee meeting. So embarrassing. Feel tired most of the time.