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MayBee70 Fri 09-Feb-24 21:47:42

My daughter had a minor operation using her health insurance last autumn. An operation that she’s had at our local surgery a couple of times ( small cyst removal, the nurse did it in a matter of minutes but, of course, they don’t seem to do these things now). Had it removed and then was asked to go for a last appointment to check that it had healed. Nearly didn’t bother going because it had healed ok. However, having paid the excess at the time of the operation she was surprised to be charged over £100 when it was checked ( which took a matter of seconds). It seems that, because the final consultation was after the date when she pays her yearly subscription it now counts as a new illness. Ok, it was probably in the small print somewhere but surely it was an ongoing treatment and should have been covered by the amount she paid when it was removed? And, if it wasn’t maybe someone should have pointed it out at the time of the first consultation?

TinSoldier Sat 10-Feb-24 00:47:47

This from BUPA. I assume similar companies have similar rules:

On our policies you’ll need to pay your excess (if applicable) on your first eligible claim of each membership year. You’ll only need to pay the total amount of your excess once per policy year, even if you make more than one claim for a condition.

However, if your treatment starts in one policy year and continues into the next, it could apply twice to a single course of treatment.

www.bupa.co.uk/health/health-insurance/understanding-health-insurance/health-insurance-excess

nanna8 Sat 10-Feb-24 00:50:14

They are price gougers ,these private health companies. All of them. They are in it for profit well and truly. One of the worse is BUPA which has set up over here and I wouldn’t touch them with a 10 foot pole.

MayBee70 Sat 10-Feb-24 09:21:25

TinSoldier

This from BUPA. I assume similar companies have similar rules:

On our policies you’ll need to pay your excess (if applicable) on your first eligible claim of each membership year. You’ll only need to pay the total amount of your excess once per policy year, even if you make more than one claim for a condition.

However, if your treatment starts in one policy year and continues into the next, it could apply twice to a single course of treatment.

www.bupa.co.uk/health/health-insurance/understanding-health-insurance/health-insurance-excess

Thanks for that. The word ‘ could’ is interesting. She’s certainly not going to let this drop!

TinSoldier Sat 10-Feb-24 10:22:30

It’s always worth querying. Technically, I think the insurers could argue that the appointment was scheduled with all the possible attending costs of that. Had the wound not healed, she would have needed more attention. Always bear in mind that it’s time and space that is being charged.

If a doctor schedules a 30 minute consultation but is able to make a quicker diagnosis or carry out treatment in less time, a patient would still be charged for the 30 minutes. It is not just the doctotr's time. There are also costs for attending nurses, reception and secretarial staff and clinic space.

It would have been helpful if the insurers had pointed out that for (what I assume was) a relatively minor treatment and if no treatment(s) for other conditions are scheduled soon, then it’s economically advantageous to schedule the entire course of treatment in one cover year.

They may not argue over £100 but the insurers do have the upper hand. They can argue that for elective care, people should simply read the small print of their plans.

The upside is, if she needs any other treatment in the same year she has already paid the excess.

If they don’t agree to a refund , she can threaten to take her business elsewhere but then she may come up against pre-existing condition exclusions for a recurring medical issue which it sounds like it is.

Aveline Sat 10-Feb-24 10:26:50

I would have thought that this follow up appointment was part of the 'package' and not a new claim. Query it. They tried to charge DD extra after her hip replacement but the surgeon told her to ignore it. They didn't resubmit the invoice.

M0nica Sat 10-Feb-24 17:09:30

When our health insurance doubled on our 70th birthdays. we worked out that over 10 years, we had paid them nearly £25,000 in premiums and made £6,000 of claims.

So we cancelled it and opened a savings account with our bank. We call it the 'health fund' and we did not change our monthly payment, which means we have paid nearly £25,000 in to it, and by chance have spent around £6,000.

The difference is that the remaining £19,000 is still ours and forms part of our savings.

If you can afford health insurance. I recommend it as an alternative way of funding your private health needs.

Aveline Sat 10-Feb-24 17:53:37

M0nica I plan to do that too.