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Allex50 Tue 26-Mar-24 11:29:42

I had shingles and lost three teeth as it went there (destroyed the nerve). Looking to get the Shingrix (I understand the older one is only 50% effective) to improve chances next time. Is this available on the NHS?

Allex50 Wed 27-Mar-24 12:52:00

Our surgery do not give Shingrix unless there is a specific need (NHS). Anyone know about this?

dragonfly46 Wed 27-Mar-24 12:52:05

When I had my vaccination a few years ago there was only one injection. I believe the new vax requires two.

Marydoll Wed 27-Mar-24 13:37:19

I am receiving my second dose on Sunday.
I am having it because I am immunocompromised. I had enquired about it, GP told me she was unable yo organise it, it had to be organised by NHS Inform.
However, I was contacted by NHS Scotland to advise me that I was to receive it because I have remained on the CEV list since the Pandemic and am at high risk. This was part of a new initiative to protect immunocompromised patients.

I believe there are strict condtions in place about accessing it.

Marydoll Wed 27-Mar-24 13:38:41

My first vax was four months ago, so not a six month gap.

RinseAndRepeat Wed 27-Mar-24 14:26:55

Allex50

Our surgery do not give Shingrix unless there is a specific need (NHS). Anyone know about this?

The UK Gov policy was changed last year:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/shingles-vaccination-programme-changes-from-september-2023-letter/introduction-of-shingrix-vaccine-for-the-whole-programme-and-expansion-of-eligible-cohorts-letter#:~:text=Shingrix%C2%AE%2520will%2520be%2520offered%2520to%2520those%2520turning%252065%2520and,eligible%2520until%2520their%252080th%2520birthday.

Allex50 Wed 27-Mar-24 16:09:40

Oh Dear! Quote/ individuals who have received Zostavax® previously should not be revaccinated with Shingrix® /unquote. So it appears I will not be eligible.

Sparklefizz Wed 27-Mar-24 18:10:54

I was definitely given the wrong advice by the nurse yesterday when I went for my Shingles vax. This is from the Gov.UK website:

Shingrix® requires a 2-dose schedule, with the second dose administered from 2 months (and ideally within 6 months) following the first dose

Shinamae Wed 27-Mar-24 18:15:13

I had mine on the NHS when I turned 70 (last February), no mention of having to have another one

Marydoll Wed 27-Mar-24 19:09:01

The older vaccine, only needs one dose.
The new one, Shringrix, is not a live vaccine vaccine and needs two doses.
People who are immunocompromised could not have the previous vaccine.

mokryna Wed 27-Mar-24 19:14:24

Could anyone tell me where their vaccine is made please. My local pharmacy has being trying to get hold of one for me but is seems unavailable for the passed couple of years here in France. Thank you.

TillyTrotter Wed 27-Mar-24 20:08:32

In the U.K. this is the Supplier

www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/12054/smpc#companyDetails

RinseAndRepeat Wed 27-Mar-24 21:35:17

Sparklefizz

I was definitely given the wrong advice by the nurse yesterday when I went for my Shingles vax. This is from the Gov.UK website:

*Shingrix® requires a 2-dose schedule, with the second dose administered from 2 months (and ideally within 6 months) following the first dose*

The NHS has adopted a different policy to what is stated in the UK Govt document: it has decided to administer the second dose in the period 6 to 12 months.

Mizuna Wed 27-Mar-24 22:25:38

I had the Shingrix vax last year, two sessions three months apart. I was using a strong prescription cream for pre-cancerous skin lesions at the time so was advised to have the Shingrix vax. No side effects except for a slightly sore arm after the first injection.

mokryna Thu 28-Mar-24 07:21:26

TillyTrotter Thank you

Marydoll Thu 28-Mar-24 07:37:21

RinseAndRepeat

Sparklefizz

I was definitely given the wrong advice by the nurse yesterday when I went for my Shingles vax. This is from the Gov.UK website:

*Shingrix® requires a 2-dose schedule, with the second dose administered from 2 months (and ideally within 6 months) following the first dose*

The NHS has adopted a different policy to what is stated in the UK Govt document: it has decided to administer the second dose in the period 6 to 12 months.

I am puzzled at the information you have posted, RinseAndRepeat.
I will receive my second dose on Easter Sunday and I received my initial dose on 31st January.
That is only a gap of two months.

RinseAndRepeat Thu 28-Mar-24 08:36:55

@MaryDoll. The guidance given to GPs in England is as below. The manufacturer and other international heath service providers appear to have policies that all second doses should be within the 2 to 6 month period.

Marydoll Thu 28-Mar-24 08:47:45

RinseAndRepeat

@MaryDoll. The guidance given to GPs in England is as below. The manufacturer and other international heath service providers appear to have policies that all second doses should be within the 2 to 6 month period.

This is from NHS Inform (Scotland).

How many doses of the vaccine do I need?
You need to have 2 doses of the shingles vaccine for it to be effective.
You’ll be offered your second dose 2 to 12 months after your first dose.

I am glad I live in Scotland!
My GP told me that GPSs in Scotland cannot give Shingles vaccines, they are organised at national level, as part of a vaccination programme.

I cannot start urgent new biologic treatment, until four weeks after my second dose, so a two month gap is perfect for me.
This treatment will make me severely immunocompromised, the last thing I need is shingles.

Jane43 Thu 28-Mar-24 08:49:21

midgey

I didn’t know that there were two vaccinations for shingles, I have only had one.

I didn’t either. We both had a vaccination when we turned 70 so 10 years ago and were told it was a one off vaccination, obviously things have changed.

Sparklefizz Thu 28-Mar-24 09:11:11

Well, I had a horrible reaction last night to my 1st Shingrix jab. My arm became much more painful, but ok, I could handle that..... but then I developed pain from head to foot, even in my toes. I do have M.E. and Fibromyalgia plus Osteoporosis so maybe the vax was a trigger. I have a good tolerance to pain, having had so much of it over the years, but last night was quite miserable.

This morning I can hardly use my arm but thankfully the overall body pain has gone.

Not looking forward to having the 2nd jab which people say is worse.

Marydoll Thu 28-Mar-24 09:27:12

Oh dear!
I had a week of awful symptoms after my first one. Stomach upset, nausea and vertigo. My RA flared up too. I am certainly not looking forward to Sunday. Howeevr, I always have severe reactions to jabs!

Sparklefizz Thu 28-Mar-24 09:31:23

Oh dear Marydoll. That sounds horrible. Hope you get on ok on Sunday.

I forgot to mention that my glands have also swollen up. Sigh. Shingrix is one powerful vax (but obviously much better than having Shingles. My Mum said it was worse than childbirth!)

Fortunately I'm not doing anything special over Easter but have quite a busy time next week and hope to be back to what is my "normal" by then.

foxie48 Thu 28-Mar-24 09:31:24

Just to clarify, there are two different vaccines.
Zostavax is a live vaccine, one dose only but unsuitable for anyone who has a weakened immune system.
Shingrix is not a live vaccine and requires two shots, the time between them will depend on personal circumstances and the GP or nurse who does the jab will tell you when to have the second one.

Marydoll Thu 28-Mar-24 10:09:35

foxie48

Just to clarify, there are two different vaccines.
Zostavax is a live vaccine, one dose only but unsuitable for anyone who has a weakened immune system.
Shingrix is not a live vaccine and requires two shots, the time between them will depend on personal circumstances and the GP or nurse who does the jab will tell you when to have the second one.

It depends where you live.
I was told by the clinician who vaccinated me, that in Scotland they will now be using Shingrix for everyone.

TillyTrotter Thu 28-Mar-24 15:08:45

In England Nhs are using up supplies Zostavax (the 1 shot vaccine) and then everyone eligible will get Shingrix (2 shots).

Vulnerable patients will be offered Shingrix immediately as their health conditions make the Zostavax vaccine unsuitable for them.

farmgran Sun 31-Mar-24 11:33:23

A friend's husband has severe shingles. She read about putting crushed garlic on the blisters and tried it on him with very good results. It took 50 to 70% of the pain away!